The naval service record of one of mine shows that he served on HMS VICTORY lll in 1899 and HMS VICTORY l in 1907,1908, 1918 and 1922. Does anyone know the difference? David
Hi -- there were several ships with that name -- you could contact TheShips-L or Mariners-L for further details David. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID PARKER" <parker3250@rogers.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 7:01 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Victory The naval service record of one of mine shows that he served on HMS VICTORY lll in 1899 and HMS VICTORY l in 1907,1908, 1918 and 1922. Does anyone know the difference? David ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
I went to the Festival Of The Sea this Sunday just gone,I was lucky enough to get two free tickets as my Mum was one of the street entertainers, my two daughters and I had a fantastic day.We qeued up for over an hour to go on the Victory, my daughter's first time, my sixth but still just as awe inspiring. We were given a leaflet about the Victory which says it was the sixth ship to be called HMS Victory and was launched on 7 May 1765.It has been in Portsmouth since 12 Jan 1922 and opened to the public in 1928, having 33 million visitors since!! Sharon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 04/07/2005
Hi David The bible for this sort of thing is usually Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy by Lt Cdr B Warlow which unfortunately does not define the differences for the periods in question, but I would have thought that Victory I would imply that he was either serving in the RN Barracks, or was attached to or attending one of the associated training establishments which were administered by HMS Victory (Barracks as opposed to ship after 1903), at least for pay, feeding, documentation and administration. If there were no ship's names after Victory III its difficult to guess. The different Victory names normally only give an indication of which pay office and supply officer (paymaster in those days) was looking after their affairs. To give you an idea of how it worked - there were 4 separate pay office in Victory Barracks when I served there in 1957 - one looking after the ship's company who worked in the Barracks - another looked after reservists under training ; out stations attached to Victory such as the people working on the various ranges in the Portsmouth area and the physical training staff at Pitt St Swimming Pool, and numerous other outposts in the Portsmouth area including the Harbour Master's and CinC's Staff in the Dockyard and another smaller office which handled documentation for personnel leaving the service, - and Victory IV which looked after the ships in commission in the Portsmouth area, but which were too small to carry their own accounts, such as the Portsmouth Squadron, and ships carrying out major refits in Portsmouth Dockyard with much reduced ships' companies. As the numbers in the service fell I understand that all these offices were combined circa 1961. During your period of interest HMS Victory also looked after the affairs of those serving down here at Portland until about 1915. Apologies for a somewhat inexact answer. Regards Paul On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:01:15 -0400, "DAVID PARKER" <parker3250@rogers.com> wrote: > The naval service record of one of mine shows that he served on HMS VICTORY lll in 1899 and HMS VICTORY l in 1907,1908, 1918 and 1922. Does anyone know the difference? > >David > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html