Hi Charles, What was his full name? The use of the term paymaster indicates that he was a serving officer of the Royal Navy not a Dockyard Official. Thus the accident may have occurred onboard a ship in harbour. Portsmouth has had many burial grounds developed with the gravestones being broken up, used as paving etc and the practice continues today. Why there should be two references to memorials of different dates some 59 years after the incident is unknown unless they were references to him on his childrens/grandchildrens graves. While on this problem yesterdays Portsmouth News had an article about some 25 urns containing ashes at the Haslar Chapel which will be reburied, probably at the Clayhall Cemetery, unless the relatives wish otherwise. Unfortunately they have only traced two of the families concerned. Good luck in your hunt. Mike Waterlooville PS Which is why it is always important to verify the source of your information!

Hi Mike, You were asking what his full name was? It is Jacob Westlake Windsor born 1773 in East Molesey, Surrey. I wonder if I could access his records from the Royal Navy for the period 1811, and see if anything is listed. I guess this would be on the National Archives site, Eh? Many thanks for your interest Mike, Regards, Charles Quebec ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Memorial to JACOB WESTLAKE WINDSOR > Hi Charles, > > What was his full name? > > The use of the term paymaster indicates that he was a serving officer of > the > Royal Navy not a Dockyard Official. Thus the accident may have occurred > onboard a ship in harbour. Portsmouth has had many burial grounds > developed with > the gravestones being broken up, used as paving etc and the practice > continues > today. Why there should be two references to memorials of different dates > some 59 years after the incident is unknown unless they were references > to him > on his childrens/grandchildrens graves. > > While on this problem yesterdays Portsmouth News had an article about some > 25 urns containing ashes at the Haslar Chapel which will be reburied, > probably > at the Clayhall Cemetery, unless the relatives wish otherwise. > Unfortunately > they have only traced two of the families concerned. > > Good luck in your hunt. > > Mike > Waterlooville > > PS Which is why it is always important to verify the source of your > information! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi Charles, My husband and I have been tracking several of my male ancestors who served in the Royal Navy around 1861. The URL below is a good place to start that search. There are a lot of records, only some of which are searchable. We downloaded (for 3.50 pounds) a record from one of my husband's family. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/military/navy/rnstep1.htm I am curious. Can any naval history buffs answer a couple of questions for me. 1) How easy was it for an able seaman to become the (lowest) officer, a petty officer, in the navy? I have found someone who might be an ancestor listed in the 1861 Census as an able seaman. As of 1868, when my ggrandmother was born, her father is given as a petty officer in the Royal Navy. Is this a likely advance in England of the time? 2)I can find absolutely NO record of a marriage between this man (John Little) and my ggrandmother's mother, searching through the BMD index and original images, for any conceivable places they might have married (her home county, county where they lived). I know that not everyone got married, but the mother had been previously married, so assume she would marry the second time. We have also searched on a site that gives marriages at sea, with no results. Any suggestions? By the way, we did search the National Archives online records for this fellow and, even though he appears on a ship as of 1861, we were unable to find him in the records. I believe the online records only occur between 1873 and 1923, so its possible he had retired from the navy by 1873 although his last child was born in 1876. Thanks! Lynne Quoting Charles Windsor <[email protected]>: > Hi Mike, > > You were asking what his full name was? It is Jacob Westlake Windsor born > 1773 in East Molesey, Surrey. > > I wonder if I could access his records from the Royal Navy for the period > 1811, and see if anything is listed. I guess this would be on the National > Archives site, Eh? > > Many thanks for your interest Mike, > Regards, > Charles > Quebec > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Memorial to JACOB WESTLAKE WINDSOR > > >> Hi Charles, >> >> What was his full name? >> >> The use of the term paymaster indicates that he was a serving officer of >> the >> Royal Navy not a Dockyard Official. Thus the accident may have occurred >> onboard a ship in harbour. Portsmouth has had many burial grounds >> developed with >> the gravestones being broken up, used as paving etc and the practice >> continues >> today. Why there should be two references to memorials of different dates >> some 59 years after the incident is unknown unless they were references >> to him >> on his childrens/grandchildrens graves. >> >> While on this problem yesterdays Portsmouth News had an article about some >> 25 urns containing ashes at the Haslar Chapel which will be reburied, >> probably >> at the Clayhall Cemetery, unless the relatives wish otherwise. >> Unfortunately >> they have only traced two of the families concerned. >> >> Good luck in your hunt. >> >> Mike >> Waterlooville >> >> PS Which is why it is always important to verify the source of your >> information! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >

Hi Mike , Would a paymaster have been a commissioned officer? Thanks, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Memorial to JACOB WESTLAKE WINDSOR > Hi Charles, > > What was his full name? > > The use of the term paymaster indicates that he was a serving officer of > the > Royal Navy not a Dockyard Official. Thus the accident may have occurred > onboard a ship in harbour. Portsmouth has had many burial grounds > developed with > the gravestones being broken up, used as paving etc and the practice > continues > today. Why there should be two references to memorials of different dates > some 59 years after the incident is unknown unless they were references > to him > on his childrens/grandchildrens graves. > > While on this problem yesterdays Portsmouth News had an article about some > 25 urns containing ashes at the Haslar Chapel which will be reburied, > probably > at the Clayhall Cemetery, unless the relatives wish otherwise. > Unfortunately > they have only traced two of the families concerned. > > Good luck in your hunt. > > Mike > Waterlooville > > PS Which is why it is always important to verify the source of your > information! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >