Pamela, LDS site www.familysearch/org shows '81 Census for HMS Crocodile -- your info looks correct. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Perryman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Crocodile Thanks Edna and David -- I had checked the ShipsList site and she didn't appear on the list for the Crcodile. Perhaps I misread the census pages previous to the one with Georgina on it and got the wrong ship name. The photocopy I have here gives the reference as RG11/5633/16, pg.19. Georgina Byrne appears on line 19, married, 25, right to be my relative. Could someone with access to the 1881 census check to see if this is really the Crocodile? Thanks, Pam Perryman Eugene, Oregon On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:23 AM, David Parker wrote: > HMS CROCODILE was an "Indian Troopship" used to transport > British troops from Britain to India and back. The 1881 census > describes her as "at sea or in a foreign port". In addition to > her naval crew she was transporting members of the military- RMLI, > RA and a number of foot regiments - and government employees She > was presumably on route to India, as the passengers include members > of the 62nd and other Regiments which were in 1881 stationed in > India. It is obvious that some of the women and children on board > are the families of these men. So I have doubts if Georgina BYRNE > is a naval wife. > > > > However these are the accommodation arrangements on HMS Crocodile. > > > > Wives with babies lived on the deck below the saloon and their part > of the ship was called the "Nursery". > > Single women lived on the same deck but in an easily segregated > area named "The Dovecot". > > Unmarried subalterns lived below the waterline in "The Pandemonium". > > The NCO's and men were even lower but they had the benefit of the > daily naval rum ration. > > > > The CROCODILE was reputed to have the best food of the Indian Troop > Ships.. It was however, both slow and increasingly overcrowded as > the numbers crept up to 1800 a voyage. > > > > David . > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Perryman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:51 PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Crocodile > > >> Hello List, >> >> Does anyone have information about troopships used as places for >> wives of naval personnel to live? I have found Georgina Nelson Byrne, >> the daughter of a sister of a great grandfather, in the 1881 census >> apparently married to one Michael Byrne. He is serving on the HMS >> Hector (probably an ordinary seaman), and she's recorded aboard the >> HMS Crocodile. It occurred to me that she could also be on a prison >> ship, but I googled the Crocodile and found the one that existed from >> 1867 to 1894, even a nice picture at the Maritime Museum -- it was a >> troopship and looks like it was in continuous service as such, not >> sidelined as a prison hulk. >> >> Were there arrangements for wives to live on ships? She wasn't >> emigrating; she stayed in England. I think it is her death I found in >> 1888, J/A/S qtr. St. Saviour, Southwark, London, Surrey. Vol. 1d, >> pg. 5. The age, 34, matches. She had a son, Reginald J., in 1883 who >> was living with Georgina's parents in the 1891 census, and she >> doesn't appear in that census, so it looks like that would be her >> death. >> >> Any info. that would shed some light on the 1881 census entry would >> be most welcome! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pam Perryman >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM- >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message