Yes, David, that's him, born about 1883. Georgina may have had her sister Frances Mary Nelson come help out around Reginald's birth. A year later, Frances Mary is married to Charles Neve, a photographer who grew up near Canterbury and could have been working there. Frances and Charles Neve are the aunt and uncle who take in Reginald after his parents and then his grandparents seem to disappear / die. I find it also interesting that Georgina seems to have married an Irish born military man -- her father, Matthew Nelson, was an Irish born Master Gunner RA. When you pay close attention to dates and places, it's amazing the stories they suggest -- although "suggest" is about all it can be for most of the story. There's only so much we can document . . . Thanks for your help with this branch of the family! Pam On Jan 20, 2007, at 6:38 PM, David Parker wrote: > Hi Pam, > > The only Reginald Byrne that I can find on- > line in the > 1901 census was born in Canterbury. > Is this your man? If so, the mobility of the father could suggest > his > being in the Army. > Whatever, I would get the marriage certificate. - I have given > you the > reference. This would confirm or otherwise if these are the right > people. > If they are, you will learn the occupation of the husband, and if > he is > Army, it will probably give his regiment or if navy probably give > his ship. > Hopefully it will give you his service number. This information > will open > up a number of avenues to you. > > David > > From: "Pam Perryman" [email protected] > To: "Ports-Gosport" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:02 PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMMS Crocodile > > >> Thanks for the suggestions folks. I had found the possibly marriage >> to John Byrne in West Derby in 1877 and discounted it as too far >> from > >> Portsmouth to be reasonable (the names were fairly common -- could be >> a coincidence, etc.). Thanks so much for suggesting it, David, >> because now things are beginning to click together. I recently found >> Goergina's aunt, Ann Perryman, working as a cook in West Derby in the >> 1881 census. In 1861 Ann Perryman was the licensed victualler at the >> Mitre Tavern, Alverstoke, and Georgina's family were living at the >> tavern. By 1871 Georgina was a bar maid at the Mitre and Ann had >> moved into private service as a cook for a family in Portsea. By 1881 >> Ann's in West Derby cooking at a parsonage. Georgina could have gone >> to West Derby to work a job Ann got for her and married there, ending >> up back in Portsmouth harbor for the 1881 census. Looks like I may >> have to break down and buy a marriage certificate for this one. >> >> Is there any place I can check to see whether John Byrne or Georgina >> Byrne are in India between 1882 and 1891? Her son, Reginald J. Byrne >> (born about 1883), is in England in 1891 and 1901, living first with >> Georgina's parents (1891), then Georgina's sister and husband (1901). >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pam Perryman >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >