I can assure you that HMS Crocodile was a Royal Navy vessel, I went and checked the navy lists in the Portsmouth Guildhall Library Special Collections Library. You will notice from my previous posting that the Crocodile was commanded by Captain Doughty, RN. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lacy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Crocodile > Correct me if I'm wrong, but this web site seems to list only commercial > ships, not Royal Navy (i.e., military) vessels. > > I was looking for a possible ancestor of mine who *may* be somebody shown > on > the HMS Alexandra in the 1881 British Census, but the web site shows that > the "Alexandra" that it knows about was built in 1897 (i.e., after the > census). I suppose that a ship for the wives of naval personnel might not > be > a Royal Navy one (i.e., it may be the "HMS Crocodile" that Pam's after and > is shown on TheShips-L in your link), or the web site may have "gaps" or > errors. > > A very interesting and useful site all the same. Thanks for the link! > > Doug - Toronto > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edna" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Crocodile > > >> Did you try TheShips-L: >> >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/Crocodile1.htm >> >> ---- >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Perryman" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:51 PM >> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Crocodile >> >> >> Hello List, >> >> Does anyone have information about troopships used as places for >> wives of naval personnel to live? I have found Georgina Nelson Byrne, >> the daughter of a sister of a great grandfather, in the 1881 census >> apparently married to one Michael Byrne. He is serving on the HMS >> Hector (probably an ordinary seaman), and she's recorded aboard the >> HMS Crocodile. It occurred to me that she could also be on a prison >> ship, but I googled the Crocodile and found the one that existed from >> 1867 to 1894, even a nice picture at the Maritime Museum -- it was a >> troopship and looks like it was in continuous service as such, not >> sidelined as a prison hulk. >> >> Were there arrangements for wives to live on ships? She wasn't >> emigrating; she stayed in England. I think it is her death I found in >> 1888, J/A/S qtr. St. Saviour, Southwark, London, Surrey. Vol. 1d, >> pg. 5. The age, 34, matches. She had a son, Reginald J., in 1883 who >> was living with Georgina's parents in the 1891 census, and she >> doesn't appear in that census, so it looks like that would be her death. >> >> Any info. that would shed some light on the 1881 census entry would >> be most welcome! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pam Perryman >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi all, This seems like a long shot, but I am trying to track descendents of Sarah Little and William Hellyer. In the 1891 Census, the family was living in Portsmouth. Sarah and William had four children (as well as my grandfather, Charles Hellyer): Birthdates: Name: William Charles Hellyer Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 419 Name: Annie Elizabeth Hellyer Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Havant County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 413 Name: Frederick James Hellyer Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 415 Name: Gladys Maud Hellyer Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsmouth (1900 Onw) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 499 All of the children except for Annie eventually emigrated to Canada and I have some knowledge of them here. Annie apparently married, was widowed (possibly through WWI) and married again. The married name my mother knew was Annie Hall. She had two children, "Dolly" and (perhaps) Lilly. I would particularly like to know about those descendents. I searched the BMD but couldn't find a marriage to "Hall" although I did find what may be the early marriage to either Bowman or Holtham. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Lynne Any info would be helpful.