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    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] possible 1861 or 1871 census look up please?
    2. Ian Thirlwell
    3. Shannon, there have been two different William Hawkins identified for you in 1871 so far. The first was William G Hawkins, born Haylng Island, the other apparently with a wife Amelia, but born Ireland. The occupation of the latter may have been Royal Marine rather than just mariner (there's another marine further down the page. William G Hawkins from Hayling would appear to be William George Hawkins whose navy record is available to download from the National Archives documentsonline, cost £3-50. In the 1871 census he was a leading seaman with the ship Hercules, and married but his wife was obviously not with him. The navy record has his birth date as 11 July 1840, according to the brief details on the search hit. These dates are known not always to be very accurate however. The Ancestry index has his birth year as 1837, but I think this is wrong. His age on the image is partly obscured and looks more like 30, giving birth year 1840/41. Ian CALLADINEB@aol.com wrote: > This could be them, please could I have a copy Jenny. > > Thank you. > > Shannon > >

    06/28/2008 02:24:26
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] possible 1861 or 1871 census look up please?
    2. Jenny M Benson
    3. Ian Thirlwell wrote >there have been two different William Hawkins identified for you in >1871 so far. The first was William G Hawkins, born Haylng Island, the >other apparently with a wife Amelia, but born Ireland. The occupation >of the latter may have been Royal Marine rather than just mariner >(there's another marine further down the page. I think you are right about Royal Marines, Ian, although the writing is appalling! I wouldn't be too bothered about the birthplace being Ireland - one can never rely 100% on what it says on a Census sheet. Shannon, this family tie in very well with a marriage in Jun Q 19595, Alverstoke (2b, 671) where one of the parties is William Hawkins and the other possibly Amelia Stephens. This in turn ties in with the birth of an Amelia Stephens in Jun Q 1838 in Isle of Wight (8, 225). That Marriage Certificate might confirm it for you, or if you can tie in the nephew John Osborne to what you already know of William or Amelia. I wonder if Maria Hawkins on the same page (Census) is related.) Image sent off-list. -- Jenny M Benson

    06/28/2008 03:13:45