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    1. [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Another mystery
    2. Bob Newell
    3. I am looking for the death or any information on John GALLIENNE b About 1862 Guernsey Channel Islands according to the 1871 Census where he was living with his Grandmother Mary BURGESS nee RILEY and his sister Ellen Mary b 6 Apr 1864 in Alverstoke Gosport. There has been no other listing of him in any census that I have been able to find, however in April 1888 there was the following entry in the Hampshire Telegraph, The Effects of Drink. John Gallienne, 27, a labourer, living at 4, Alver Road was charged with threatening to murder his father and brother on the 2nd inst. Thomas Gallienne stated that the prisoner came home last night about eleven o'clock, the worse for liquor. He went into the front room to get some meat, but witness told him not to take it, Prisoners mother then took the meat away, when prisoner got a carving knife and tried to strike her saying he would have her "---- Blood." In trying to strike his mother prisoner broke the blade of the knife against a partition. Witness got a brass rod and defended himself with it. Prisoner's younger brother then came downstairs, when the former tried to strike him with the knife, but ultimately gave up the weapon. PC Goddard said he had several times cautioned prisoner, owing to his beating his father. The charge was bound over to keep the peace for one month, himself in £10, and a surety in a like sum, the chairman saying that drink had brought the prisoner to the borderline of crime. After this I can find no other reference. Regards Bob Newell

    05/26/2008 06:50:13
    1. [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Thomas GALLIENNE
    2. Linda & Tony
    3. Bob if you are looking at Free BMD whilst it is very helpful it is not complete and therefore you will need to check the GRO index by going through 1/4 by 1/4 to check all deaths to be certain of the death date. If he died in England or Wales. He may of course died overseas. Linda and Tony -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Newell Sent: 26 May 2008 12:50 To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com; Hampshire-L Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Another mystery I am looking for the death or any information on John GALLIENNE b About 1862 Guernsey Channel Islands according to the 1871 Census where he was living with his Grandmother Mary BURGESS nee RILEY and his sister Ellen Mary b 6 Apr 1864 in Alverstoke Gosport. There has been no other listing of him in any census that I have been able to find, however in April 1888 there was the following entry in the Hampshire Telegraph, The Effects of Drink. John Gallienne, 27, a labourer, living at 4, Alver Road was charged with threatening to murder his father and brother on the 2nd inst. Thomas Gallienne stated that the prisoner came home last night about eleven o'clock, the worse for liquor. He went into the front room to get some meat, but witness told him not to take it, Prisoners mother then took the meat away, when prisoner got a carving knife and tried to strike her saying he would have her "---- Blood." In trying to strike his mother prisoner broke the blade of the knife against a partition. Witness got a brass rod and defended himself with it. Prisoner's younger brother then came downstairs, when the former tried to strike him with the knife, but ultimately gave up the weapon. PC Goddard said he had several times cautioned prisoner, owing to his beating his father. The charge was bound over to keep the peace for one month, himself in £10, and a surety in a like sum, the chairman saying that drink had brought the prisoner to the borderline of crime. After this I can find no other reference. Regards Bob Newell

    05/26/2008 07:35:32