I have also downloaded a few since your message, and it has proved very interesting, eg a £10 Pom aunt who went to Australia & we thought she had come back within two years (which would mean paying her own way back) but she did make it just a couple of months longer. Ian Linda & Tony wrote: > It's a pity it isn't on findmypast as it would be useful to have both > together! > Still not to be but maybe they plan to in future to . > However, useful to use as separate sites and a good few passenger lists > saved by u from both sites Ian. > Linda and Tony >

Ah. I was looking on the Ancestry site itself! Ian Linda & Tony wrote: > Hello Ian > If you go to www.itv.com/news it is on the left just down a bit for the news > on it. > Linda and Tony > >

Oops too soft on computer keys should have said saved by us from both sites. Linda and Tony -portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda & Tony Sent: 20 October 2008 18:27 To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] passenger lists It's a pity it isn't on findmypast as it would be useful to have both together! Still not to be but maybe they plan to in future to . However, useful to use as separate sites and a good few passenger lists saved by u from both sites Ian. Linda and Tony

It's a pity it isn't on findmypast as it would be useful to have both together! Still not to be but maybe they plan to in future to . However, useful to use as separate sites and a good few passenger lists saved by u from both sites Ian. Linda and Tony -portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thirlwell Sent: 20 October 2008 17:57 To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] passenger lists Thanks for highlighting that. I couldn't find any news item about it, but located it in the full list of databases. Interesting that it isn't on findmypast/ancestorsonboard to go with the outgoing lists. Ian Linda & Tony wrote: > Hello all > Did anyone see the news today Ancestry have added incoming passenger lists > to UK 1878-1960 very useful too! > Linda and Tony

Hello Ian If you go to www.itv.com/news it is on the left just down a bit for the news on it. Linda and Tony -portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thirlwell Sent: 20 October 2008 17:57 To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] passenger lists Thanks for highlighting that. I couldn't find any news item about it, but located it in the full list of databases. Interesting that it isn't on findmypast/ancestorsonboard to go with the outgoing lists. Ian Linda & Tony wrote: > Hello all > Did anyone see the news today Ancestry have added incoming passenger lists > to UK 1878-1960 very useful too! > Linda and Tony >

Thanks for highlighting that. I couldn't find any news item about it, but located it in the full list of databases. Interesting that it isn't on findmypast/ancestorsonboard to go with the outgoing lists. Ian Linda & Tony wrote: > Hello all > Did anyone see the news today Ancestry have added incoming passenger lists > to UK 1878-1960 very useful too! > Linda and Tony >

My grt grt grandfather Arthur GEORGE and his family lived during the 1850's at the S E Line Cottages at Port Creek Junction Wymering. Can anyone tell me exactly where they would have been? I suppose it is too much to expect them to be still there?!! He was a railway labourer then but later moved back to Havant where he was born and was then a sawyer. Thanks Shirley McHutchison

Hello all Did anyone see the news today Ancestry have added incoming passenger lists to UK 1878-1960 very useful too! Linda and Tony

I've just come across this site, where you can access Wills for free!   http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/heritage/wills_search.php   It doesn't just cover Wiltshire, as the County boundaries were different in early years. If you strike lucky, you can access the images.   Thought it was worth a mention   Regards   Jan

For those who do not belong to Ancestry, try the Harleian Registers at http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Harleian . Hampshire is vols 35 & 36 John

Sorry everyone - false alarm! I have found that the book has been scanned and put onto Ancestry, so it's very easily available. Useful to know for future! Mark **************

Hello I've found something I'm interested in via Google Books Search but Google only provides a "snippet view" (ie most of it is missing). Does SKS have easy access to the following volume of Hampshire Marriage Allegations who might be able to provide me with the complete entry? (The snippet view also cuts off the book's full title but I assume it's "Bishop of Winchester"): Hampshire Allegations for Marriage Licences Granted by the Bishop of ... by W J C Moens, Winchester, England (Diocese)., Diocese of Winchester, Church of England - Marriage licenses - 1893 The entry I want appears to be on page 171 and it starts like this: COLLYER, John, of Holy Rood, Southampton, plumber, b., s. of John & Ann Collyer, bap. at Warblington, 21 Oct., 1798, & Maria-Jane Staples, of HR, sp., ... Can anyone please supply the rest of the text for this entry? My research interest is the Collyers, but I have info to share on the Staples family if anyone is interested. Many thanks. Mark **************

Can someone tell me if there is any software that does not lose pictures when the tree is exported. Regards Bob

Was there supposed to be a message with this Chris Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRIS MALE" <chris.male1@btinternet.com> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Oxford House Portsmouth >

Hello List, My naval ancestor sent 2 letters to the Admiralty in 1818 and 1819. The sender's address on the first one was "Severn Downes" and on the second, "Green Lane near Portsmouth". I saw some earlier posts to this list which show that there are a few Green Lane's in and near Portsmouth and as he had just finished service before commencing half-pay I think it's possible that this was either a family address or perhaps a boarding house. (He apparently was born in Portsmouth c1789 although I haven't yet found a baptism record). Are there any directories or other resources for Portsmouth about this time which might give the names of residents of Green Lane, please? It seems likely that Severn Downes was also near a naval port - perhaps even a ship. I wonder, does this name or anything like it, ring a bell with anyone, please? Thank you Di

Hi, Just received a note from Rootsweb Support pertaining to not being able to use the site. Their answer was: "Sorry for the trouble you had with this. We are in contact with the webmaster for this site, and we expect the site to be re-enabled shortly." Edna - Ottawa

Hello Di, You should also consider Green Lane at Alverstoke. At the Bury Road end of which I believe there is a large detached house for a naval senior officer. It's hidden by the trees but might date from that period? I will see if my directories show this later. I will see if I can spot the house name as well unless anyone else knows it? Regards Peter

Hi Di, Do you have the letters and if so what are the postal markings on the front and the back? The Downs is a naval Anchorage and refers to an area stretching from Dover to the London Surrey border but in this instance probably refers to the area off of the Medway towns or possibly Dover. Ships would wait here fopr a favourable wind to take them down the English Channel. Get hold of the postal markings and I can tell you more about them. Mike Waterlooville **************

Mark you tried to send your message in html and it was therefore stripped. All messages need to bbe sent in plain text and not in html or rich text or they come out blank through any list. Linda and Tony -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DorsetPast@aol.com Sent: 12 October 2008 13:21 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] COLLYER - Gosport / Portsea / Isle ofWight / Southa... Not quite sure what happened to my message, but this is what I was trying to post: ************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not quite sure what happened to my message, but this is what I was trying to post: I am seeking information on John COLLYER, a painter, glazier and later plumber who lived in Gosport c. 1809-1821 (and in West Cowes, Isle of Wight during the end of that period and possibly in Portsea earlier than that). I think he married Mary Ann WHITEHOUSE in Portsea in 1804. If this is the right John COLLYER then he was a widower at the time of that marriage but I don't know anything about his first wife. His children by the second marriage included Thomas COLLYER, baptised in 1816 in Gosport, from whom I am descended. In 1809 John COLLYER's business partnership with John KNELLER was dissolved (they were corn merchants and hackney-men, Kneller went bankrupt in 1812). During 1816-1821 John COLLYER, painter and glazier, also went bankrupt and various notices regarding this appear in the London Gazette, the Times and the Hampshire Telegraph. He had a son, Samuel, baptised in Portsea in 1822 but by 1839, when his son Thomas married, the family had moved to Stepney/Hackney, in east London. John COLLYER, by this time a plumber, died in the early 1840s. There is a Southampton line of COLLYERs, also glaziers, plumbers and painters but I am not sure how (or whether) they are connected. The senior member of this line - also called John COLLYER - was born btw 1796-1801 somewhere in Hampshire. In 1823 he married Maria Jane STAPLES. He was in business (as Staples & Collyer) with Jane STAPLES and Edmund STAPLES, though this company was dissolved in 1828. John continued in business with Jane STAPLES until 1839. (His wife Maria Jane had died in 1837.) The 1841 census finds John living in Southampton with his second wife Sarah. It appears John died in 1848 by which time the couple had moved to the Isle of Wight (where his widow can be found in the 1851 census). I also have information on this John's two children including his son (another John !) who went into business with his uncle Charles STAPLES, but they went bankrupt in 1854. There are papers in the Southampton Archives relating to contracts and disputes between John COLLYER and the Southampton Waterworks Commissioners, 1837-40 - I'm not sure if this is John senior or John junior. One of the sureties mentioned in these papers is Joseph LANKESTER who later became Mayor of Southampton, I think. As I say, I am not sure if the Southampton COLLYERS are related to the Gosport COLLYERS - it could be that the Southampton John COLLYER born c 1796-1801 is the son of the Gosport John COLLYER by his first marriage but that's just conjecture. Most of the information I have here is from online sources - I haven't been able to get to any of the Hampshire record offices to search further. I am interested in making contact with any other COLLYER researchers who have a connection with the Gosport John COLLYER - the Southampton lot are of interest to me if I can find a link to my Gosport ancestors. By the way, if you are interested in the STAPLES family of Southampton or John KNELLER of Gosport I can pass on the information I have on them. Many thanks, MARK ____________________________________ **************