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    1. Portsea area PR lookups please
    2. Sarah Middleton
    3. Hi Linda & Tony, I keep seeing requests for lookups in the local PRs - I wonder if you would be kind enough to look a few up for me, please? St. Mary's Portsea Baptisms of the children of John and Sally MIDLANE: 14/6/1815 Charles Wm 20/2/1820 John 24/12/1826 William Joint baptisms for four children of Charles and Hannah HARRIS: 9/11/1828 David; Samuel; Mary Ann; and Joseph Arthur Holy Trinity, Gosport Joint baptisms for four children of John and Mary Ann MIDLANE: 7/7/1858 Charles George; Emma Louisa; John Samuel and Sarah Hannah Alverstoke Marriage of John MIDLANE and Sally PURCHES on 25/12/1813. Was it common to have several children baptised together like in the two examples here? Many thanks in advance, Sarah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 06/05/2005

    05/08/2005 09:27:21
    1. George Woodman lookup
    2. vedaha
    3. Hi Linda & Tony, can you lookup up burial for George Woodman at Alverstoke. On FreeBMD he is listed as George Woodman, Deaths March 1859, Alverstoke 2b, page 327. I can't find him on your parish registers or IGI. I think he may have been in the navy as his wife was from Chatham. Thank you, Dave Hartnett, Sth. Aust.

    05/08/2005 06:32:40
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) &Emma (c1777-1867)
    2. What does SKS stand for ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna & Ken" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 2:37 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) &Emma (c1777-1867) > Good Day! Thanks very much SKS just found them for us happy cousins. > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edna & Ken > To: Hampshire-L > Cc: Ports-Gosport > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 3:50 PM > Subject: 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) & Emma (c1777-1867) > > > Would anyone be able to find a Thomas KNIGHT and wife Emma living in this > area please on the 1861 Census. > > In the > 1860's they were living Canal Bank, Fratton, Landport -- Death > certificate > states his death Thirtieth January 1869 Canal Cottage, Fratton, Landport, > Portsmouth, County Southampton. He was 83 years old. > > Thank you, > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Are they called brickwalls because there is always MORTAR find? > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    05/08/2005 06:02:22
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) &Emma (c1777-1867)
    2. Edna & Ken
    3. Hi Bob, You are SKS also, as you always help people = Some Kind Soul. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) &Emma (c1777-1867) What does SKS stand for ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna & Ken" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 2:37 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) &Emma (c1777-1867) > Good Day! Thanks very much SKS just found them for us happy cousins. > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edna & Ken > To: Hampshire-L > Cc: Ports-Gosport > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 3:50 PM > Subject: 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) & Emma (c1777-1867) > > > Would anyone be able to find a Thomas KNIGHT and wife Emma living in this > area please on the 1861 Census. > > In the > 1860's they were living Canal Bank, Fratton, Landport -- Death > certificate > states his death Thirtieth January 1869 Canal Cottage, Fratton, Landport, > Portsmouth, County Southampton. He was 83 years old. > > Thank you, > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Are they called brickwalls because there is always MORTAR find? > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

    05/08/2005 03:39:21
    1. 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) & Emma (c1777-1867)
    2. Edna & Ken
    3. Good Day! Thanks very much SKS just found them for us happy cousins. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: Edna & Ken To: Hampshire-L Cc: Ports-Gosport Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: 1861 Census - Thomas KNIGHT (c1786-1859) & Emma (c1777-1867) Would anyone be able to find a Thomas KNIGHT and wife Emma living in this area please on the 1861 Census. In the 1860's they were living Canal Bank, Fratton, Landport -- Death certificate states his death Thirtieth January 1869 Canal Cottage, Fratton, Landport, Portsmouth, County Southampton. He was 83 years old. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

    05/07/2005 03:37:50
    1. Newspaper 1838 / 1850
    2. Hella Menke-Voigt
    3. Hi list, I am looking for the historical newspaper 'Hampshire Telegraph' 1838 and 1850 / shipnews. It would be great, if somebody could do me a great favour, to have a short view to the shipnews of Isle of Wight. My gran-gran-grandfather was captain/master of a sailing ship during the 19th century, and I am working on reconstructing the time schedule of him. Twice he came to Cowes/ Isle of Wight, one time as shipboy, second time as master himself.The information of german newspaper was like this: 1. Brigg Gerhard Hermann, Master Claussen Cowes, arrived Jan.20, 1838 from Porto Rico. Cowes, sailed March 14, 1838 for Bremen. 2. Brigg Henriette, Master Greve Cowes, arrived Apr.21, 1850 from Laguayra. Cowes, sailed Apr. 23, for Hamburg. Thank you for any help, Hella Bremen, Germany

    05/06/2005 01:42:56
    1. Willam Price St Marys look up
    2. Geraldine
    3. Hi Linda and Tony Please you could you do one of your wonderful look ups for me Marriage St Marys Portsea William PRICE and Catherine BRUCE 15th Aug 1811 Many Thanks Geraldine

    05/06/2005 11:25:06
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1861 Census - Royal Navy
    2. Paul Benyon
    3. 'Evening Rita A few snippets on HMS Immortalite can be found on my web site at: http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/I/02372.html From comparing the pay scales for 1860, sourced from the Navy List for Dec of that year it would appear a Captain of the Main Top was a First Class Petty Officer http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/RN/Pay_and_Condns/Pay_1860_Ratings.htm Regards Paul Portland On Thu, 5 May 2005 20:57:47 +0100, "Rita Newton" <newton.r@tesco.net> wrote: >Hi List >One of my cousins, has found on the 1861 Census under Royal Navy (and this is her note to me) >William James HINES (born 1837) Capt Main Top: Vessel: Immortalite (presume HMS) Vessel town Gibraltar >Is anyone able to fill out more details about this entry in 1861 Census? >William James HINES was born in Elson, Gosport in 1837. >Thanks >Rita > >PS >William later ran pubs in Weymouth and "gaming boats"? in the harbour! > > > > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

    05/05/2005 06:34:06
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] (fwd) Obit - Cyril Tawney - Son of Gosport& Forydront
    2. I remember having a great two weeks with the school in the early fifties on there working as old sailors and sleeping hammocks . The memory has stuck with me my whole life. A pity they don't do things like that now for the kids bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Newton" <newton.r@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] (fwd) Obit - Cyril Tawney - Son of Gosport& Forydront > The original message may have been posted a while ago - but I've only > recently snailmailed it to my sister & her husband in Scotland, They were > on the folk scene in Hampshire at that time. > Cyril Tawney performed on HMS Fourdyant (now back to original name of > Trimocelee & based in Sunderland?) Folk Evenings, when she was still > moored > in Portsmouth Harbour, Gosport side - there was a Fourdyant Trust at that > time? > My sister had Cyril sign a copy of one of his records. > If anyone on this list remembers the folk evenings on Fourdyant & the > names > of Dave Brav (Bravington) or Harmsworth, do let me know. > Rita (Newton) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Benyon" <pbenyon@pbenyon.plus.com> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:30 AM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] (fwd) Obit - Cyril Tawney - Son of Gosport > > >> >> Noticed the following on another list. >> >> >Cyril Tawney >> >English folk-music revivalist and a leading authority on maritime song >> >27 April 2005 >> >Cyril Francis Tawney, folk revival singer and songwriter, naval >> >historian > and broadcaster: born Gosport, Hampshire 12 October 1930, married 1966 > Rosemary Radmore; died Wonford, Devon 21 April 2005. >> >It was Cyril Tawney's proud, unchallenged claim that he sang folksongs > for a living longer than anyone else in Britain. When, at the end of the > 1950s, Britain experienced its first flowering of what might honestly be > called English chanson, where chanson conveys a sense of literate, > intelligent song, the larger-than-life Tawney was at the forefront. >> >He sprinkled his songs with enduring images. In "The Ballad of Sammy's > Bar" (1958), an encounter set in Malta, the sailor asks Marina how sand > got > in her hair, to be told that he is past history: the love-rival is "a > better > man by far / As he drives a Yankee car". "Sally Free and Easy" (1958) is > strewn with lines like, "Think I'll wait to sunset / See the Ensign down." >> >Tawney's songs entered the folk bloodstream, being covered over the >> >years > by the trio of Mary Black, Emmylou Harris and Dolores Keane (who sang his > "The Grey Funnel Line" - slang for the Royal Navy), Bob Dylan, Davy > Graham, > Dorris Henderson, Carolyn Hester, Nic Jones, the Silly Sisters (Maddy > Prior > and June Tabor), Martin Simpson, Trees, the Watersons, the Yetties and the > Young Tradition. >> >Tawney was born into a naval family in Gosport, Hampshire, in 1930. He > joined the Navy at 16 and spent 12 years in the service working as a naval > artificer (electrician), in naval slang a "tiffy", hence Tawney's song > drolly winkled out of a Shakespearian quote, "A Lean and Unwashed Tiffy". > He > made his radio début as a folk singer on the Home Service's Sing Christmas > and the Turn of the Year on Christmas Day 1957 - a broadcast that inspired > the Radio 4 Archive Hour that I presented on Christmas Day 2004, by which > time Tawney was too ill to participate, a pity since he helped my essay > for > its 2000 CD release enormously. >> >The original programme's anchor-man, the US musicologist and folk-song > collector Alan Lomax, announced him, live on air, as "Petty Officer Tawney > of HMS Murray". Earlier Home Service and Third Programme broadcasts by > Lomax > and Sing Christmas's Plymouth presenter Peter Kennedy had awakened > Tawney's > musical consciousness, weaning him off Frank Crumit, Elton Hayes, Burl > Ives > and Jimmie Rodgers onto "authentic folk music". >> >He bought himself out of the Navy in May 1959 to become a full-time, > professional folk singer. In the days before the folk-club explosion, he > made his living by broadcasting. Basing himself in London or Bristol would > have been a wiser radio and television career move; but he picked > Plymouth, > in the process becoming a prime mover in the revival of interest in West > Country folk culture. By the early 1960s he was recording, contributing to > Rocket Along and A Pinch of Salt (both 1960). In October 1961, he secured > his first solo folk club date, followed by his first recording under his > name alone, Baby Lie Easy (1963). >> >As a former submariner, he had a keen appreciation of naval life, but he > turned the particular into the universal in many of his songs. They > entered > song collections such as Songs for the Sixties (1961), The Oxford Book of > English Traditional Verse (1983) and The Oxford Book of Sea Songs (1986). > Tawney became a leading authority on maritime song, singing on the > important > anthology Farewell Nancy (1964); acting as consultant to "provide > authentic > song material" for the television series Moonfleet; and writing Grey > Funnel > Lines: traditional song & verse of the Royal Navy 1900-1970 (1987). >> >He also specialised in West Country folk song - witness his album The > Outlandish Knight (1969) - and the Sabine Baring-Gould collections. > Interviewed by the chronicler of folk-music history Eric Winter in 1972, > Tawney said: >> >A folk singer must have a regional identity, be representative of the > ordinary people of a certain area, be able to express their character and > outlook on life not only in the songs, but also in the way he sings them. > Although I was born in Hampshire, I had already put down roots in the > Devon > and Cornwall area through my naval service, so I settled in Plymouth and > got > on with the business of learning as much as I could about West Country > songs. >> >After ping-ponging between record labels, Tawney found relative >> >stability > with Argo. It released four albums and placed tracks on a handful of its > budget compilations. From 1988 onwards, Tawney put out his own material on > his own label, Neptune Tapes, most on nautical themes. An exception was > Down > the Hatch (1994), themed mainly on beery matters - including John > Mitchell's > "A Pint of Contraception", Richard Thompson's "Down Where the Drunkards > Roll" and the traditional "Sucking Cider from a Straw". Many of his songs > are riddled with innocent and not-so-innocent measures poured out from > barroom and pub encounters. In "Monday Morning" he sang, >> >If only birds would booze >> >If only the sun was a party giver >> >If I could just lend someone else me liver >> >On a Monday morning. >> >He once told me that too many folk performers had leapt at the chance to > join "big glam 'lectric groups". "It really is a bit niggling," he said: >> >You think, "Maybe I should have gone with one of these groups for six > months and got out of it. My name would have been made afterwards." People > are quite indiscriminate about it, as if he's been with a group so he must > be good. >> >One group he did join was the one the singer and composer Peter Bellamy > put together for his "ballad-opera" The Transports (1977, reissued 2004). > Bellamy created The Shantyman in his likeness. Ironically Tawney had > worked > on a ballad-opera as early as 1969. >> >The Scots singer Ray Fisher once remarked to me, "Cyril was something of > an enigma." She was right. He never conformed to folk stereotypes of any > sort, never touted his politics, just sang and made history come alive. >> >Ken Hunt >> >> 50.33.50N 02.26.70W >> http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html >> >> >> ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies > info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

    05/05/2005 05:03:31
    1. Holy Trinity, Gosport, marriage
    2. J P NIXEY
    3. Hi Tony & Linda I've found a marriage on the IGI of a George James Haben to Esther Ellifer, Aug 4, 1872 at Holy Trinity, Gosport. Do you have the full details please? Many thanks Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/05

    05/05/2005 05:00:41
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] (fwd) Obit - Cyril Tawney - Son of Gosport & Forydront
    2. Rita Newton
    3. The original message may have been posted a while ago - but I've only recently snailmailed it to my sister & her husband in Scotland, They were on the folk scene in Hampshire at that time. Cyril Tawney performed on HMS Fourdyant (now back to original name of Trimocelee & based in Sunderland?) Folk Evenings, when she was still moored in Portsmouth Harbour, Gosport side - there was a Fourdyant Trust at that time? My sister had Cyril sign a copy of one of his records. If anyone on this list remembers the folk evenings on Fourdyant & the names of Dave Brav (Bravington) or Harmsworth, do let me know. Rita (Newton) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Benyon" <pbenyon@pbenyon.plus.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] (fwd) Obit - Cyril Tawney - Son of Gosport > > Noticed the following on another list. > > >Cyril Tawney > >English folk-music revivalist and a leading authority on maritime song > >27 April 2005 > >Cyril Francis Tawney, folk revival singer and songwriter, naval historian and broadcaster: born Gosport, Hampshire 12 October 1930, married 1966 Rosemary Radmore; died Wonford, Devon 21 April 2005. > >It was Cyril Tawney's proud, unchallenged claim that he sang folksongs for a living longer than anyone else in Britain. When, at the end of the 1950s, Britain experienced its first flowering of what might honestly be called English chanson, where chanson conveys a sense of literate, intelligent song, the larger-than-life Tawney was at the forefront. > >He sprinkled his songs with enduring images. In "The Ballad of Sammy's Bar" (1958), an encounter set in Malta, the sailor asks Marina how sand got in her hair, to be told that he is past history: the love-rival is "a better man by far / As he drives a Yankee car". "Sally Free and Easy" (1958) is strewn with lines like, "Think I'll wait to sunset / See the Ensign down." > >Tawney's songs entered the folk bloodstream, being covered over the years by the trio of Mary Black, Emmylou Harris and Dolores Keane (who sang his "The Grey Funnel Line" - slang for the Royal Navy), Bob Dylan, Davy Graham, Dorris Henderson, Carolyn Hester, Nic Jones, the Silly Sisters (Maddy Prior and June Tabor), Martin Simpson, Trees, the Watersons, the Yetties and the Young Tradition. > >Tawney was born into a naval family in Gosport, Hampshire, in 1930. He joined the Navy at 16 and spent 12 years in the service working as a naval artificer (electrician), in naval slang a "tiffy", hence Tawney's song drolly winkled out of a Shakespearian quote, "A Lean and Unwashed Tiffy". He made his radio début as a folk singer on the Home Service's Sing Christmas and the Turn of the Year on Christmas Day 1957 - a broadcast that inspired the Radio 4 Archive Hour that I presented on Christmas Day 2004, by which time Tawney was too ill to participate, a pity since he helped my essay for its 2000 CD release enormously. > >The original programme's anchor-man, the US musicologist and folk-song collector Alan Lomax, announced him, live on air, as "Petty Officer Tawney of HMS Murray". Earlier Home Service and Third Programme broadcasts by Lomax and Sing Christmas's Plymouth presenter Peter Kennedy had awakened Tawney's musical consciousness, weaning him off Frank Crumit, Elton Hayes, Burl Ives and Jimmie Rodgers onto "authentic folk music". > >He bought himself out of the Navy in May 1959 to become a full-time, professional folk singer. In the days before the folk-club explosion, he made his living by broadcasting. Basing himself in London or Bristol would have been a wiser radio and television career move; but he picked Plymouth, in the process becoming a prime mover in the revival of interest in West Country folk culture. By the early 1960s he was recording, contributing to Rocket Along and A Pinch of Salt (both 1960). In October 1961, he secured his first solo folk club date, followed by his first recording under his name alone, Baby Lie Easy (1963). > >As a former submariner, he had a keen appreciation of naval life, but he turned the particular into the universal in many of his songs. They entered song collections such as Songs for the Sixties (1961), The Oxford Book of English Traditional Verse (1983) and The Oxford Book of Sea Songs (1986). Tawney became a leading authority on maritime song, singing on the important anthology Farewell Nancy (1964); acting as consultant to "provide authentic song material" for the television series Moonfleet; and writing Grey Funnel Lines: traditional song & verse of the Royal Navy 1900-1970 (1987). > >He also specialised in West Country folk song - witness his album The Outlandish Knight (1969) - and the Sabine Baring-Gould collections. Interviewed by the chronicler of folk-music history Eric Winter in 1972, Tawney said: > >A folk singer must have a regional identity, be representative of the ordinary people of a certain area, be able to express their character and outlook on life not only in the songs, but also in the way he sings them. Although I was born in Hampshire, I had already put down roots in the Devon and Cornwall area through my naval service, so I settled in Plymouth and got on with the business of learning as much as I could about West Country songs. > >After ping-ponging between record labels, Tawney found relative stability with Argo. It released four albums and placed tracks on a handful of its budget compilations. From 1988 onwards, Tawney put out his own material on his own label, Neptune Tapes, most on nautical themes. An exception was Down the Hatch (1994), themed mainly on beery matters - including John Mitchell's "A Pint of Contraception", Richard Thompson's "Down Where the Drunkards Roll" and the traditional "Sucking Cider from a Straw". Many of his songs are riddled with innocent and not-so-innocent measures poured out from barroom and pub encounters. In "Monday Morning" he sang, > >If only birds would booze > >If only the sun was a party giver > >If I could just lend someone else me liver > >On a Monday morning. > >He once told me that too many folk performers had leapt at the chance to join "big glam 'lectric groups". "It really is a bit niggling," he said: > >You think, "Maybe I should have gone with one of these groups for six months and got out of it. My name would have been made afterwards." People are quite indiscriminate about it, as if he's been with a group so he must be good. > >One group he did join was the one the singer and composer Peter Bellamy put together for his "ballad-opera" The Transports (1977, reissued 2004). Bellamy created The Shantyman in his likeness. Ironically Tawney had worked on a ballad-opera as early as 1969. > >The Scots singer Ray Fisher once remarked to me, "Cyril was something of an enigma." She was right. He never conformed to folk stereotypes of any sort, never touted his politics, just sang and made history come alive. > >Ken Hunt > > 50.33.50N 02.26.70W > http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    05/05/2005 04:42:39
    1. 1861 Census - Royal Navy
    2. Rita Newton
    3. Hi List One of my cousins, has found on the 1861 Census under Royal Navy (and this is her note to me) William James HINES (born 1837) Capt Main Top: Vessel: Immortalite (presume HMS) Vessel town Gibraltar Is anyone able to fill out more details about this entry in 1861 Census? William James HINES was born in Elson, Gosport in 1837. Thanks Rita PS William later ran pubs in Weymouth and "gaming boats"? in the harbour!

    05/05/2005 02:57:47
    1. RE: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches
    2. Simon & Diane Newton
    3. Rosemary, Thank you very much for the intro as to what to expect. Looking forward to it very much. Regards Simon -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Valentine [mailto:rosemary.valentine@ntlworld.com] Sent: 05 February 2005 01:56 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches Hi Simon, The local newspaper is now "The News", previously "The Portsmouth Evening News" and somewhere in between, I think, "The Evening News" !! Anyway, it's all on film and held at Portsmouth Central Library in the Genealogy Department. You need to book a film reader in advance. They also have a very wide range of local history documents, and of course, the GRO BMD on microfiche and all the census. Again you need to book a microfiche reader in advance. I think you can book for up to 3 hours at a time and there is no charge for either. In peak times they may restrict booking times, but the staff are both helpful and knowledgeable and, I am sure, would respond warmly to you since you would be here for only a short time. Best of Luck Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon & Diane Newton" <Newton@incanberra.com.au> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:17 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches > Hello, > > I am planning a visit to England later this year and am trying to do > some homework. > > Can anyone please tell me how I would go about searching the local > newspaper archives in Portsmouth? I haven't a clue what exists or > where they are kept. I am hoping to look for some obituaries or > marriage notices for dates ranging anywhere between 1850 to 1975 > depending on what's available. > > Thanks > > Simon > > Simon Newton > > Australian Capital Territory > AUSTRALIA > > This email was scanned at source using Norton AntiVirus with current > virus definitions. > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

    05/05/2005 02:38:30
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Re: Lost emails
    2. Rosemary Valentine
    3. Dear Linda & Tony, Very many thanks and apologies for mis-using the list. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Re: Lost emails > > In a message dated 05/05/05 14:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, > rosemary.valentine@ntlworld.com writes: > > I know I shouldn't ask through the list ..........can some kind genius tell > me how I can retrieve some misfiled emails > ....a temp windows folder as .dbx files which I can't open!! [This is on a > Win98 system] > > > They are outlook express archive files - go to > _http://www.mailnavigator.com/read_outlook_express_dbx_files.html_ > (http://www.mailnavigator.com/read_outlook_express_dbx_files.html) for more info. > > Not a list issue as you say but there is a rootsweb list for computer > technical queries if you need further help > > Linda & Tony > List Admin > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T > SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    05/05/2005 12:10:24
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Cemetery - HELLYYERs
    2. PAUL STACEY
    3. Hi Ken & Edna I noticed on the Rootsweb Listings you have a great deal of requests for Rudmore Portsmouth, I wonder if you have any personal links to this area or is it just a coincidence? Paul Edna & Ken <ekbrit@rogers.com> wrote: Hi, >From my notes, James HELLYER (pensioner) of Rudmore Terrace d. 10 September, 1896 aged 72 years Buried 12 September 1896 Mile End Cemetery 5' grave in Plot N, Row 14, Grave 83 William Hellyer (Retired Tradesman) of Derby Road d. 9 July 1897 aed 89 yrs Buried 11 July 1897 Mile End Cemetery in a brick grave in the chapel. Mile End Cem. no longer exists, now a car park for P & O cross-channel ferry. Please claim this fellows ~~ Edna - Ottawa ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

    05/05/2005 09:38:10
    1. Re: Lost emails
    2. Rosemary Valentine
    3. I know I shouldn't ask through the list [but they are Portsmouth-Gosport genealogy emails!] but can some kind genius tell me how I can retrieve some misfiled emails that have some how gotten into a temp windows folder as .dbx files which I can't open!! [This is on a Win98 system] Please help before I throw the PC out of the window!!! With fingers crossed! Rosemary

    05/05/2005 08:40:25
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches
    2. Rosemary Valentine
    3. Hello Simon, Thanks for your reply - just another thought, Portsmouth Central Library always keep one microfiche viewer for "half-hour" bookings. This is where someone doesn't understand there is a booking requirement and has just popped in. You would be able to use it for just 30 minutes with a maximum wait of 29 minutes ! Keep in touch, I was born in Portsmouth and live just outside, so if I can be of help, do not hesistate. Best wishes Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon & Diane Newton" <Newton@incanberra.com.au> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches > Rosemary, > > Thank you very much for the intro as to what to expect. Looking forward > to it very much. > > Regards > > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosemary Valentine [mailto:rosemary.valentine@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 05 February 2005 01:56 > To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches > > > Hi Simon, > > The local newspaper is now "The News", previously "The Portsmouth > Evening News" and somewhere in between, I think, "The Evening News" !! > Anyway, it's all on film and held at Portsmouth Central Library in the > Genealogy Department. You need to book a film reader in advance. They > also have a very wide range of local history documents, and of course, > the GRO BMD on microfiche and all the census. Again you need to book a > microfiche reader in advance. I think you can book for up to 3 hours at > a time and there is no charge for either. In peak times they may > restrict booking times, but the staff are both helpful and knowledgeable > and, I am sure, would respond warmly to you since you would be here for > only a short time. Best of Luck Rosemary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon & Diane Newton" <Newton@incanberra.com.au> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:17 AM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Newspaper Searches > > > > Hello, > > > > I am planning a visit to England later this year and am trying to do > > some homework. > > > > Can anyone please tell me how I would go about searching the local > > newspaper archives in Portsmouth? I haven't a clue what exists or > > where they are kept. I am hoping to look for some obituaries or > > marriage notices for dates ranging anywhere between 1850 to 1975 > > depending on what's available. > > > > Thanks > > > > Simon > > > > Simon Newton > > > > Australian Capital Territory > > AUSTRALIA > > > > This email was scanned at source using Norton AntiVirus with current > > virus definitions. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at > www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy for newbies info,photos of > local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 > 9&targetid=5429 > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    05/05/2005 08:35:35
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Re: Lost emails
    2. In a message dated 05/05/05 14:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, rosemary.valentine@ntlworld.com writes: I know I shouldn't ask through the list ..........can some kind genius tell me how I can retrieve some misfiled emails ....a temp windows folder as .dbx files which I can't open!! [This is on a Win98 system] They are outlook express archive files - go to _http://www.mailnavigator.com/read_outlook_express_dbx_files.html_ (http://www.mailnavigator.com/read_outlook_express_dbx_files.html) for more info. Not a list issue as you say but there is a rootsweb list for computer technical queries if you need further help Linda & Tony List Admin

    05/05/2005 05:03:49
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] William Cole
    2. patnirv
    3. Thank you for that information and your interest. My Cole family originated in Dogmersfield and I was told were there or in that area for many generations but I cannot track them back further than about 1800. Also told that Cole is a common Hampshire name and my various searches bear that out! My William Cole was born in Middlesex but the older and younger brothers were born and christened in Portsmouth, parents' marriage and father's death there too and I think the birth of William was never registered. I have tried the Middlesex List but could not cope with the sheer volume of messages! I have a grandson whose second name is Cole so the name lives on. For one generation at least. Pat, Ontario, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Clarke" <baz@baz2000.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] William Cole > Hi Pat, > I have COLEs in my family. they originally came from Midhurst in West > Sussex.My 5x G/Father John Cole was married to Elizabeth and they had the > following children: > Elizabeth 1794 to 1865 (she married my 4 x G/father James CLARKE) > Charles 1797-? > Charlotte 1799-? > George 1802-? > John 1803-? > Harriet 1808-?(married Stephen WINDEBANK) > Sarah 1809-? > Emily 1813-? > When Elizabeth and James first son was born he was christened James Cole > CLARKE. This name was to used for three generations of sons. There is even a > living relative with the middle name of Cole > Regards > Bazzer > Portchester > Fareham > Hampshire > www.clarkeology.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patnirv" <irvnyman@csolve.net> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:25 PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] William Cole > > > > Ever searching for the elusive William Cole as above - can you give me > more detail on a William Cole christened 23 January 1842 at St. Mary's, > Portsea, mother Sarah Jane Cole - no other details on the IGI. I think it > is a year early for my man but you never know. Pat, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > > Family historian love graveyards they are the sort of places they like to > visit to meet up with old relatives > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 25/04/2005 > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    05/05/2005 01:23:39
    1. Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Moon death
    2. In a message dated 01/05/05 18:55:33 GMT Daylight Time, jmoon@ic24.net writes: The burial is mentioned in the Alverstoke parish registers on your web-site. Is there any more information available? Hello John The details on our web site are unfortunately the full details off the parish register. Sorry no more info available Regards Linda & Tony

    05/04/2005 12:22:13