No Edna, just very good ; if it included Portland it would be excellent ;-) Paul Portland On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:06:25 -0400, "Edna & Ken" <ekbrit@rogers.com> wrote: > > >An excellent site -- > >http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ > >Cheers, > >Edna - Ottawa > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Granny SMITHs aren't just the name of an apple they are in many a family tree too > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

I have a 2nd Great-grandfather Edw. William Payne b. 1829 Portsmouth. Edna - Ottawa ------ Descendants of Edward William Payne 1 Edward William Payne b: 1829 in Portsmouth, Hampshire d: Aft. 1893 . +Eliza Hewitt b: 1832 in Portsmouth, Hampshire m: 1849 in Portsea Island ... 2 Eliza Jane Payne b: 1853 in Portsea ....... +Thomas Oscar Gutteridge b: 1852 in Portsea m: 24 Oct 1872 in St. Simon's Southsea ... 2 Mary Ann Payne b: 1855 in Portsmouth d: Apr 1944 in St. Mary's Hosp. Portsmouth Burial: 01 May 1944 Highland Rd. Cemetery B 24- 18 ....... +William James Hellyer b: 14 Jan 1854 in Gosport, Alverstoke, Southampton Baptism: 29 Jan 1854 Holy Trinity Church, Gosport & privately 7 May 1854 m: 15 Jun 1873 in Parish Church, Portsea, Hampshire d: circ. 1891 in Hampshire ........ 3 Ann Hellyer b: 05 Feb 1874 in Portsea Isle, Landport, Southampton d: 04 May 1971 in Portsmouth, Hampshire Burial: 07 May 1971 Garden of Remembrance nr. Portchester Castle ............ +William Knight b: 01 Nov 1871 in Portsmouth, Hampshire Baptism: 19 Nov 1871 St. Mary's Portsea (K. Knight, Aus. supplied info) m: 20 May 1893 in St. Simon's Church, Portsea, Southampton d: 21 Dec 1925 in Bootle, West Derby Burial: 24 Dec 1925 Bootle Cemetery ........ 3 Lily Hellyer b: 1876 in Portsea, Hampshire ............ +Edwin Wade b: 1876 in Chertsey, Surrey m: 25 Mar 1900 in St. Symond's Church ........ 3 William James. Hellyer b: 1878 in Southsea, Hampshire ............ +unknown m: circ. 1894 in Portsea ........ 3 Harry W. Hellyer b: 1880 in Southsea, Hampshire ........ 3 Minnie Hellyer b: 1882 in Portsea, Hampshire ............ +William Adolphus White b: 1883 m: 04 Jun 1906 in St. Mathews of Portsea - Southsea d: Jun 1911 in Infectious Disease Hospital, Milton Burial: 01 Jul 1911 Highland Rd. Cemetery, Portsmouth B 24 - 18 ........ *2nd Male of Minnie Hellyer: ............ +Mr. Alger m: Aft. 1911 ... 2 Stephen Payne b: 1858 in Portsmouth ... 2 Alice Payne b: 1863 in Portsmouth ... 2 George J. Payne b: 1865 in Portsmouth ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rose" <john@rose48sp.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] KNIGHT's Further to Linda and Tony's post my KNIGHT's are: Alice born 9/12/1856 Milton Portsmouth parents David & Martha she married James PAYNE in 1881. David bapt. 2/1/1815 Portsmouth parents John & Sarah he married Martha PRAGNELL 1837 in Southampton. John bapt. 17/5/1785 St. Mary Portsea parents John & Elizabeth he married Sarah DENNIS who I have traced to Plymouth Devon. John bapt. 9/2/1766. I do have more information if this is of interest to anyone. John ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Don't go barking up the wrong tree be like a good chef and ALWAYS check your SOURCES ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi, Sorry about that Paul, think Portland is Dorset n'est-ce pas? I've got to try harder. All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Benyon" <pbenyon@pbenyon.plus.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Old Maps No Edna, just very good ; if it included Portland it would be excellent ;-) Paul Portland On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:06:25 -0400, "Edna & Ken" <ekbrit@rogers.com> wrote: > > >An excellent site -- > >http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ > >Cheers, > >Edna - Ottawa > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Granny SMITHs aren't just the name of an apple they are in many a family >tree too > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Good Day, From my Notes - Hambledon BTs: Baptism Oct 22 1837 William Goldsmith Crook son of William and Elizabeth Crook of Crabbick in Hambledon. Occ. Labourer. Perf. by J. L. Barton, Curate of Hambledon. Edna - Ottawa

An excellent site -- http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

Have you checked the original document for transcription error? It could be Gisborne for example. Mike Waterlooville

Found in Stoke Damerel for those of you searching for Knights. William Knight, Private in the North Hants militia and Rebecca Rider, Spinster. (Mary Carnach, J Garland Jun? witnesses). On the 9 Feb 1809, Entry No 359 in Stoke Damerel, Devon - C of E parish register transcripts marriages 1808-1814. Film no 916924 at LDS. Hope this matches up for someone. Cheers, Margaret from West Oz.

hi! i am taking a break so i will resume on the mailing list when i return home regards len

Joan Do a Google on "Coastguards Isle of Wight" and hopefully you will come up with a site run by Ann ??? which has census transcriptions for most of the Isle of Wight coastguard stations. (plus masses of other IOW related information). Send her an e'mail with your query, as I was in contact with a guy last year who was detailing all the coast guard stations - if anyone has photos these 2 will. If you don't get any joy, contact me off list & I'll try and find his e-mail details. Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm & Joan Colmer" <n_j_colmer@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:09 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] C/G Station, IOW. > Good Morning, > > I have received a copy of the 1891 census showing my g/grandfather and his familyof a group of men sitting on steps at what appears to be a defence post. As this photo was given to me with other papers from my uncle, unfortunately he didn't know who the men were, presumably one was my g.g.f. Would anyone have any idea as to where I may be able to find photographs of C/G stations on the IoW, please? > > Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust. > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hello all My husband's maternal grandmother, Elizabeth KNIGHT (born Easton 7th December 1882, died 23rd June 1951) married Harry Chivers on 3rd December 1904, Congregational Church, Winchester. Elizabeth was the daughter of George and Martha (Kneller) KNIGHT. George was born Easton about 1844 (have not yet found his birth) and died 24th August 1898 aged 54 at The Union Workhouse, Winchester. Mary Haskell, Slough, Berkshire Researching: HASKELL; WHITEAR Hampshire & Wiltshire CHIVERS,KNIGHT,KNELLER, BRICE; MORRIS; HOLDER; WHITE, PARKER; BELL; MOORE, BURTON; WITT; PERN; MOUNTAINE; COLE Hampshire WILSON, Surrey; BROWN Hants/Wilts, MATTINGLEY, Berks ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-D Digest V05 #150

Good Morning, I have received a copy of the 1891 census showing my g/grandfather and his family were living at Newtown IoW. I have also been given a photograph of a group of men sitting on steps at what appears to be a defence post. As this photo was given to me with other papers from my uncle, unfortunately he didn't know who the men were, presumably one was my g.g.f. Would anyone have any idea as to where I may be able to find photographs of C/G stations on the IoW, please? Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust.

Hello Joan & Rita that will be Ann BARRETT. Linda and Tony Joan Do a Google on "Coastguards Isle of Wight" and hopefully you will come up with a site run by Ann ??? which has census transcriptions for most of the Isle of Wight coastguard stations. (plus masses of other IOW related information). Send her an e'mail with your query, as I was in contact with a guy last year who was detailing all the coast guard stations - if anyone has photos these 2 will. If you don't get any joy, contact me off list & I'll try and find his e-mail details. Rita

Hello all Many thanks for the ideas, but it is the origin of the name Gunborne I am looking for. I've searched all of the main line search engines, IGI, PRO etc, and the result is the same .... not found. Born on board a ship seems to be the only logical answer (thanks David), but I find it hard to believe that the name is so unique as not to have a mention somewhere on the ww web. Anyhow, thanks for all the ideas, and please keep them coming. Deborah Tiley wrote: > Hugh Wallis has a IGI Middle Name Index at > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/index.htm > > which is very useful > > Debbie > > Knightroots@aol.com wrote: > >> We found it very confusing when we first started out as all great >> grandparents and children were known by their middle names so were >> looking for the wrong christian names to start with. >> Linda and Tony >> >> >> ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >> practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T >> SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- Rich Can't we just take the warning labels off everything and let society's stupidity problem solve itself? For Views from my Windows, visit http://www.richvr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Hi Linda & Tony: Could you please look up the marriage between William WILLCOCKS and Eliza(beth) YOUNG on 1 Jan 1825 at St. Mary's Portsea and send me the details? IGI Ba: M062613 1820 - 1828 So: 0919749 Film Pr: NONE From what I've found so far, Elizabeth was b. 6 Feb 1804 and chr. at Orange Street NC Church on 9 Jul 1804, d/o John YOUNG and Elizabeth (DAVENPORT). William was b 15 Dec 1802 and chr 27 Feb 1803 at St. Mary's Portsea, s/o Robert WILLCOCKS and Mary Ann (CONN) (birth date recorded in parish register, looked up years ago by my brother.) I'd be interested to know if Elizabeth (chr. Eliza) was a minor (by one month) on her wedding day! Regards Martin Willcocks Tayorsville, UT, USA.

Hugh Wallis has a IGI Middle Name Index at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/index.htm which is very useful Debbie Knightroots@aol.com wrote: >We found it very confusing when we first started out as all great >grandparents and children were known by their middle names so were looking for the >wrong christian names to start with. >Linda and Tony > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T >SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi, I've got a few examples of this in my tree. I'm assuming it's a surname which is being used as a middle name. In my family, I have an illegitimate son (brother of my gt-grandfather) who was first called John CARTER, but eventually became known as John Carter MIDDLETON after his parents married. My Dad has the middle name Lindley, which was his mother's maiden name; my gt-grandfather was Percy Jepson LINDLEY, and I recently found out that JEPSON was his grandmother's maiden name. Hope that's useful. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Rich [mailto:richvr@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 10 May 2005 10:16 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Odd Name I came across this person, who married my Great Grandaunt in 1889 in Portsea. William John Gunborne Mitchell Would the panel have any ideas on the origin of "Gunborne" ? Thanks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 09/05/2005

I came across this person, who married my Great Grandaunt in 1889 in Portsea. William John Gunborne Mitchell Would the panel have any ideas on the origin of "Gunborne" ? Thanks -- Richard van Rooijen Can't we just take the warning labels off everything and let society's stupidity problem solve itself? For Views from my Windows, visit http://www.richvr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Hi, If you happen to notice my letter to the paper about the photograph of Milton farm family -- KNIGHTs circa 1890, please let me know. Trying to contact a Derek Knight, etc. who supplied the picture. Thanks, Edna - Ottawa

Gunbourne -- Gun Carrier? Edna - Ottawa

A wild guess: gunborne = son of a gun = born onboard ship. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richvr@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:16 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Odd Name > I came across this person, who married my Great Grandaunt in 1889 in > Portsea. > > William John Gunborne Mitchell > > Would the panel have any ideas on the origin of "Gunborne" ? > > Thanks > > > -- > Richard van Rooijen > > Can't we just take the warning labels off everything > and let society's stupidity problem solve itself? > > For Views from my Windows, visit http://www.richvr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T > SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >