Hello Di well it could be St Mary's Portsea or St Mary's church Alverstoke but if you do a google search for Hugh Wallis's site for batch numbers and search for your surname for both Portsea and Alverstoke for the time period you will find the church from there. Good Luck Linda and Tony Hi all Can anyone help? I have a Henry Stark or Starks married to a Mary possibly Dawson on the 15th december 1757 at a church called St marys, I have the family living in portsea and alverstoke, so would love to be able to locate where they married.or anything about this family. any help would be much appreciated thanks Di Rodgers

Hello Linda & Tony, When you finished your message by suggesting that there might be KNIGHT connections about that would link with your family I thought I would give you my small link to the KNIGHT name. This proved more difficult than I expected, though I'm pleased that I looked at the name more thoroughly than I obviously had previously. I have a George KNIGHT born in Colmore, HAM in 1829 who married my Great Aunt, Sarah Ridge BALDWIN, in Lillingstone Lovell, BKM on the 30th November 1865. He was a gamekeeper. I had 3 children of the marriage recorded on my FH programme but saw that the first child, Sarah, was shown as being born in 1858. While this was possible I thought I'd probably mis typed one of the dates. Now that there are more census images on line I checked the 1861/71 sheets and found GK and a Sarah in both years. However Sarah's age and birthplace did not look right. Fortunately (?) Milton Keynes is quite close and has a good Local Studies Library. They didn't have the Lillingstone Lovell PRs for marriages but they did have the Banns register and this showed GK as a widower. To get to the point GK's history appears to be as follows: GK born c1829 Colmore, HAM, First marriage to Sarah TURNER ( bap 21 Aug 1836) in Heath & Reach, BDF on the 25th June (not 23rd as in IGI) 1856. Daughter Sarah baptised in Heath & Reach in 1858. Sarah senior dies in Q4 1861 (buried in H&R 6 Oct 1861). GK's second marriage to Sarah Ridge BALDWIN as above and their two children, Elizabeth, 1866, and Frances Lucy, 1868, born in Leckhampstead, BKM. I've realised as I type this that Frances Lucy KNIGHT married her cousin Henry Thomas BALDWIN. HTB was the first child of Sarah Ridge BALDWIN's brother Thomas and Elizabeth Esther SCOTT. Finally GK's parents were Thomas KNIGHT and Sarah ROTHWELL (this name appears as BOTHWELL and WROTHWELL etc.). Their marriage is probably the one in East Tisted on the 20 Oct 1821 (IGI). I would be interested to hear from anyone with connections to the KNIGHT name Best wishes. Peter Wood Flitwick, Bedfordshire

Hello Linda and Tony Many thanks for the details of the St Mary's Portsea marriages featuring William ELLIOTTs. I thought it might be the St Thomas fiche that you did not have. As the William ELLIOTT who married Elizabeth NORTH at St Marys, Portsea was a bachelor and his marriage was after the birth of my ancestor it would seem more likely that my William ELLIOTT who married Jane CROSBY in 1840 was the son of William ELLIOTT and Elizabeth EVANs who married at St Thomas in 1788. I do have another favour if I may ask, as my William ELLIOTT born c1790 is probably the married? mariner found in the 1851 census. As far as my father recalls the census recorded him as married and if this is the case he must have had a third wife. I think wife no2 (Jane CROSBY) is the Jane ELLYETT who died Dec 1846 Quarter Portsea. On the IGI there is a further William ELLIOTT marriage that might be a third for my man: William ELLIOTT to Harriet POOK on 29th September 1847 at Saint Marys, Portsea. Please would you be so kind as to check this marriage to see if this William was a widower? His first marriage may well be the one to Elizabeth PAYNE in 1816 as he would have been about 26 at the time. Unfortunately I have no idea who the witnesses Anne ADAMES & John ADAMS were so no clues there. Now if only all these Williams had had middle names to distinguish them, life would be a lot easier .... Kind wishes and many thanks for all your help. Carol in Berkshire, UK

Looks like we've had a change of name))...well we know it's the key next to the next letters don't worry just teasing.. Yes we have all the Alverstoke fiche available from way back so if anyone needs anything checked let us know. Linda and Tony Hi Linds & Tiny: Thanks very much. Guess you can't make out who James ???? and Sarah Rosina ?? are? Would you by chance have the Alverstoke records for 1800? If so, I'd like a lookup please for 28 Jul 1800 Alverstoke (St. Mary?)

Hi Linds & Tiny: Thanks very much. Guess you can't make out who James ???? and Sarah Rosina ?? are? Would you by chance have the Alverstoke records for 1800? If so, I'd like a lookup please for 28 Jul 1800 Alverstoke (St. Mary?) John YOUNG and Elizabeth DAVENPORT IGI Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M073576 <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=M073576&region=2&batch_search=true> 1799 - 1819 0918903 <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=0918903> Film 6901185 <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=6901185> Film Sheet: 00 Thanks and regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

I'm looking for a copy of a pamphlet about the history of St Mary's Hospital written by Mary Verrier. I think it was produced about 1970. I have been told that it contains reference to some of the DREW and MADDEN family. Any ideas where I may be able to get hold of a copy, please? Thank you. Peter

From some notes.... Liss 13 November 1737 Elizabeth daughter of James & Elizabeth HOARE Edna - Ottawa

From some notes I had -- Holy Trinity Church Gosport Burials April 13 1844 Eliza Ann Hoare of Gosport 1yr 8 mths James Hoare of Gosport 9 months Edna - Ottawa

Having started to work through them I see that: CHU3/1B/15 page 114 no 907 baptised Nov 9 1828 David son of Charles & Hannah HARRIS Born 20 Nov 1828 Cross St Labourer I guess the birth date is wrong (rather than him being baptised before he was born!!!) Thanks, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Middleton [mailto:slmiddleton@ntlworld.com] Sent: 13 May 2005 18:00 To: 'ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsea area PR lookups please Hi Linda & Tony, Many thanks for the lookups - they will certainly be useful. Is the reference number for a fiche or film? How frustrating that the note is unreadable :o( Thanks for your time. Best wishes, Sarah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005

Hi Linda & Tony, Many thanks for the lookups - they will certainly be useful. Is the reference number for a fiche or film? How frustrating that the note is unreadable :o( Thanks for your time. Best wishes, Sarah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005

Hi Peter, Mary Verrier is alive and well and only recently contributed a piece to the News about her work in Portsmouth Hospitals. She is in the Tel Drty but as R T Verrier and would I am sure be delighted to give you a first hand account of the people you refer to. You can mention my name if you like. Mike Hill Waterlooville

Hello Peter Have you tried Portsmouth library? _http://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/learning/29.html_ (http://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/learning/29.html) Good luck,Linda and Tony I'm looking for a copy of a pamphlet about the history of St Mary's Hospital written by Mary Verrier. I think it was produced about 1970. I have been told that it contains reference to some of the DREW and MADDEN family. Any ideas where I may be able to get hold of a copy, please? Thank you. Peter

Great ... you've come up trumps again .. Knightroots@aol.com wrote: > > Hello Richard > here are the full marriage details. > > St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/37 > page 15 no 30 October 14th 1838 Henry NOBLE,full age,Bachelor,Sawyer,Cross > St & Esther FRICKER,full age,Spinster, no address entered but could be the > same as above, married by banns, both signed,fathers Henry NOBLE,Sawyer & James > FRICKER,Butcher,in the presence of Mary FRICKER & James ?? > > Take care,Linda & Tony > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Are they called brickwalls because there is always MORTAR find? > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- Rich Can't we just take the warning labels off everything and let society's stupidity problem solve itself? For Views from my Windows, visit http://www.richvr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Thank you again. I see old Richard Gudge turned up again in the Eliot marriage.All the best Geraldine -----Original Message----- From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] Sent: 13 May 2005 11:47 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Hoar marriage look up Hello Geraldine here are the full marriage details. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/26 page 60no 107 George HOAR,Bachelor & Esther REEVES, Spinster Both of this parish were married in this church by banns 3rd July 1827 signed by both in the presence of Henry G?? J FORDER & June/Jane FORDER Hope it helps,Linda and Tony ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

The reference is for fiche Sarah. Will double check that birth before baptism in case it was us blinking). Be back later. Linda and Tony Hi Linda & Tony, Many thanks for the lookups - they will certainly be useful. Is the reference number for a fiche or film? How frustrating that the note is unreadable :o( Thanks for your time. Best wishes, Sarah

Henry Noble and Esther Fricker, 14 October 1838, St Marys, Portsea. Many thanks. -- Richard van Rooijen Can't we just take the warning labels off everything and let society's stupidity problem solve itself? For Views from my Windows, visit http://www.richvr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Hello Richard here are the full marriage details. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/37 page 15 no 30 October 14th 1838 Henry NOBLE,full age,Bachelor,Sawyer,Cross St & Esther FRICKER,full age,Spinster, no address entered but could be the same as above, married by banns, both signed,fathers Henry NOBLE,Sawyer & James FRICKER,Butcher,in the presence of Mary FRICKER & James ?? Take care,Linda & Tony

----- Original Message ----- From: Edna & Ken To: barbara.Hesketh@btopenworld.com Cc: PennyDaish Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: 1881 Census - John KNIGHT b. 1836 Hi, Just noticed quite a household of John (b. 1836) KNIGHT - DAYSH - HOAREs on Hill Lane Appleford Cott, Portsea RG11 1162/110 42 ~~ Edna - Ottawa

Well Edna we have a few things in common).LOL Kind thoughts Linda and Tony Hi, We're using the word "common" in belonging to a family or land and definitely not meaning "inferior quality". Don't worry, we know our noble families. LOL, Edna - Ottawa

Hello Carol I wonder if you could check the following marriages for me from the IGI? William ELLIOTT to Elizabeth EVANS 9 JUN 1788 at Saint Thomas, Portsmouth. I am interested in the names of witnesses and whether it might give any additional details. we can't check the first marriage as we don't have the fiche for that one. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/7 page 253 no 1059 William ELLIOTT,Bachelor & Elizabeth NORTH,Spinster,Both of this parish married in this church by banns 27th August 1793 signed by both in the presence of X the mark of James HANCOCK & Richd GUDGE CHU3/1D/14 page 46 no 138 William ELLIOTT,Bachelor & Elizabeth PAYNE,Spinster,Both of this parish were married in this church by banns 17th April 1816 signed by Wm ELLIOTT & X sined the mark of Elizabeth PAYNE, in the presence of Anne ADAMES & John ADAMS Hope they help,Linda and Tony