Sorry Rosemary Rowlands Castle is too far out for me. Best wishes Paul Rosemary Valentine <rosemary.valentine@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hi Paul, If your directories extend to Rowlands Castle, may I jump in and ask for a look up for any HUDSON's you might find? Possibly an H. Hudson? Many thanks Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL STACEY" To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth families. > Hi Audrey > > I have some old street directories for Portsmouth from 1930 to 1975 if you have any address's I could look them up for you. > > I have a William Galloway living in the Cosham area of Portsmouth " the only one in 1948". Also David Gander living in Southsea area of Portsmouth. > > If you need address please contact my off list. > > Paul > > > > > Audrey wrote: > Hello, I subscribed to your list recently in the hope of helping a friend > put together his family tree and hopefully find some living half brothers. > > He is William GALLOWAY born 1943 to William GALLOWAY and Lillian Beatrice > DAY. This was Lillians second marriage, She married ? GANDER in > Portsmouth July 1/4 1929. She married William Galloway in 1941. > Children Ronald in 1930 > David 1934 > Brian 1935 were born to the GANDER /DAY marriage and > William Alec born in 1943 was the first child of the second marriage. > His father was: > WILLIAM ALEC GALLOWAY(2) born 1917 was the son of William Campbell Galloway > and Elizabeth Cox. (Spooner name is attached to this fgamily somewhare, > maybe a second marriage. > his mother was: > LILLIAN BEATRICE DAY born 1909 Portsmouth daughter of Albert George Day > and Lillie Selina Green( dau of Charles William Green, Market > gardener )Portsmouth.. > > Albert George Day was also known as George, Alfred G, George A, > > I hope this makes some sense, and I would dearly love to help him. > We are hoping his siblings by the GANDER marriage may still be alive. > I would appreciate any knowledge at all of these names. > I am finding it hard to move forward as most of the initial research is > post 1900 and that complicates life from this side of the world. > > Thank you all. > Audrey Green > Hobart, Tasmania > Australia > > -----Original Message > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05 > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online?

Whoops..............it is of course - www.knightroots.co.uk Sorry folk Linda & Tony -----Original Message----- From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] Sent: 21 May 2005 00:25 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] PATIENCE We only do parish register look ups from the parish registers we have at home see _www.knightsure.co.uk_ (http://www.knightsure.co.uk) and by clicking on resources. We don't have any of the 1851 census index but even if we did, we would not do look ups as it would be a breach of the HGS licence. Linda & Tony Linda & Tony If you have 1851 Index for Southampton and Portsea could you kindly look for PATIENCE entries. Many thanks. ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello, I subscribed to your list recently in the hope of helping a friend put together his family tree and hopefully find some living half brothers. He is William GALLOWAY born 1943 to William GALLOWAY and Lillian Beatrice DAY. This was Lillians second marriage, She married ? GANDER in Portsmouth July 1/4 1929. She married William Galloway in 1941. Children Ronald in 1930 David 1934 Brian 1935 were born to the GANDER /DAY marriage and William Alec born in 1943 was the first child of the second marriage. His father was: WILLIAM ALEC GALLOWAY(2) born 1917 was the son of William Campbell Galloway and Elizabeth Cox. (Spooner name is attached to this fgamily somewhare, maybe a second marriage. his mother was: LILLIAN BEATRICE DAY born 1909 Portsmouth daughter of Albert George Day and Lillie Selina Green( dau of Charles William Green, Market gardener )Portsmouth.. Albert George Day was also known as George, Alfred G, George A, I hope this makes some sense, and I would dearly love to help him. We are hoping his siblings by the GANDER marriage may still be alive. I would appreciate any knowledge at all of these names. I am finding it hard to move forward as most of the initial research is post 1900 and that complicates life from this side of the world. Thank you all. Audrey Green Hobart, Tasmania Australia -----Original Message -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05

I also have Rolfs but way back in Portsmouth.My one James Rolf, married Sarah Tudway Horton in 1785. Have found lots of Rolfs/Rolph/ Roffs in the non conformist registers. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL STACEY" <pbkstacey@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Surrey Street, Portsea in 1871 > Hi Tony > > Sorry I can't help with your question, but I noticed your name ROLFE and wondered if you have any relatives still in the Portsmouth area? Strangely my Rolfe also ran a pub in Portsmouth in the 1960's ! The name HEARD also rings a bell with me. > > I don't have much on my ROLFE family but we may find a link? > > Regards > > Paul Stacey > > > > > Tony Rolfe <genealogy@gillandtony.com> wrote: > Greetings > > I am a new subscriber to your list and I hope someone can help me with > a couple of questions... > > I have found my 3rd great grand aunt Clara HEARD (nee ROLPH) with > her musician husband James and daughter Sophia as visitors at 26 > Surrey Street, Portsea. Under the street address is the notation > "Who'd have thought it". The head of the family is a brewer and > beerhouse keeper. > > Does anyone know whether this was a pub or similar named "Who'd > have thought it"? or, if not, what would the annotation have meant? > > Secondly, is there any possibility that James was actually in two places > on census night? James was born in Writtle, Essex, only a few miles > fro Chelmsford. There is also a James HEARD, a bandsman, same > age, born Chelmsford on "Monarch" at no 10 dock, Portsmouth > Dockyard. Could it be that he actually spent the night ashore, but was > recorded as being on the ship? > > Any thoughts would be greatfully received > > Thanks in advance > > Tony Rolfe > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Are they called brickwalls because there is always MORTAR find? > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005

We only do parish register look ups from the parish registers we have at home see _www.knightsure.co.uk_ (http://www.knightsure.co.uk) and by clicking on resources. We don't have any of the 1851 census index but even if we did, we would not do look ups as it would be a breach of the HGS licence. Linda & Tony Linda & Tony If you have 1851 Index for Southampton and Portsea could you kindly look for PATIENCE entries. Many thanks.

That is him - he ended up living in Southampton. Thanks Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HINES marriage look-up please > Morning Rita > here are the full marriage details. > > CHU2/1C/14 St Thomas' Portsmouth > page 143 no 286 26th April 1846 Henry HINES,full age,Bachelor,Porter,High St > & Elizabeth Ann russell,full age,Spinster,High St,married in the parish > church by banns,X signed his mark & Elizabeth signed, fathers Jas > HINES,Bricklayer & Jno RUSSELL,Blacksmith,in the presence of too faded to read sorry Rita! > > Hope it helps,Linda and Tony > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Paul, If your directories extend to Rowlands Castle, may I jump in and ask for a look up for any HUDSON's you might find? Possibly an H. Hudson? Many thanks Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL STACEY" <pbkstacey@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth families. > Hi Audrey > > I have some old street directories for Portsmouth from 1930 to 1975 if you have any address's I could look them up for you. > > I have a William Galloway living in the Cosham area of Portsmouth " the only one in 1948". Also David Gander living in Southsea area of Portsmouth. > > If you need address please contact my off list. > > Paul > > > > > Audrey <Audrang@southcom.com.au> wrote: > Hello, I subscribed to your list recently in the hope of helping a friend > put together his family tree and hopefully find some living half brothers. > > He is William GALLOWAY born 1943 to William GALLOWAY and Lillian Beatrice > DAY. This was Lillians second marriage, She married ? GANDER in > Portsmouth July 1/4 1929. She married William Galloway in 1941. > Children Ronald in 1930 > David 1934 > Brian 1935 were born to the GANDER /DAY marriage and > William Alec born in 1943 was the first child of the second marriage. > His father was: > WILLIAM ALEC GALLOWAY(2) born 1917 was the son of William Campbell Galloway > and Elizabeth Cox. (Spooner name is attached to this fgamily somewhare, > maybe a second marriage. > his mother was: > LILLIAN BEATRICE DAY born 1909 Portsmouth daughter of Albert George Day > and Lillie Selina Green( dau of Charles William Green, Market > gardener )Portsmouth.. > > Albert George Day was also known as George, Alfred G, George A, > > I hope this makes some sense, and I would dearly love to help him. > We are hoping his siblings by the GANDER marriage may still be alive. > I would appreciate any knowledge at all of these names. > I am finding it hard to move forward as most of the initial research is > post 1900 and that complicates life from this side of the world. > > Thank you all. > Audrey Green > Hobart, Tasmania > Australia > > -----Original Message > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05 > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I served with a Leading Seaman R GANDER on the Royal Yacht 1960 - 1963. Is he the same R GANDER born 1930? He might have been a Ron but in the Navy all GANDER's were referred to as Goosey! Mike Waterlooville

Hi Audrey I have some old street directories for Portsmouth from 1930 to 1975 if you have any address's I could look them up for you. I have a William Galloway living in the Cosham area of Portsmouth " the only one in 1948". Also David Gander living in Southsea area of Portsmouth. If you need address please contact my off list. Paul Audrey <Audrang@southcom.com.au> wrote: Hello, I subscribed to your list recently in the hope of helping a friend put together his family tree and hopefully find some living half brothers. He is William GALLOWAY born 1943 to William GALLOWAY and Lillian Beatrice DAY. This was Lillians second marriage, She married ? GANDER in Portsmouth July 1/4 1929. She married William Galloway in 1941. Children Ronald in 1930 David 1934 Brian 1935 were born to the GANDER /DAY marriage and William Alec born in 1943 was the first child of the second marriage. His father was: WILLIAM ALEC GALLOWAY(2) born 1917 was the son of William Campbell Galloway and Elizabeth Cox. (Spooner name is attached to this fgamily somewhare, maybe a second marriage. his mother was: LILLIAN BEATRICE DAY born 1909 Portsmouth daughter of Albert George Day and Lillie Selina Green( dau of Charles William Green, Market gardener )Portsmouth.. Albert George Day was also known as George, Alfred G, George A, I hope this makes some sense, and I would dearly love to help him. We are hoping his siblings by the GANDER marriage may still be alive. I would appreciate any knowledge at all of these names. I am finding it hard to move forward as most of the initial research is post 1900 and that complicates life from this side of the world. Thank you all. Audrey Green Hobart, Tasmania Australia -----Original Message -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05 ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online?

Hi Tony Sorry I can't help with your question, but I noticed your name ROLFE and wondered if you have any relatives still in the Portsmouth area? Strangely my Rolfe also ran a pub in Portsmouth in the 1960's ! The name HEARD also rings a bell with me. I don't have much on my ROLFE family but we may find a link? Regards Paul Stacey Tony Rolfe <genealogy@gillandtony.com> wrote: Greetings I am a new subscriber to your list and I hope someone can help me with a couple of questions... I have found my 3rd great grand aunt Clara HEARD (nee ROLPH) with her musician husband James and daughter Sophia as visitors at 26 Surrey Street, Portsea. Under the street address is the notation "Who'd have thought it". The head of the family is a brewer and beerhouse keeper. Does anyone know whether this was a pub or similar named "Who'd have thought it"? or, if not, what would the annotation have meant? Secondly, is there any possibility that James was actually in two places on census night? James was born in Writtle, Essex, only a few miles fro Chelmsford. There is also a James HEARD, a bandsman, same age, born Chelmsford on "Monarch" at no 10 dock, Portsmouth Dockyard. Could it be that he actually spent the night ashore, but was recorded as being on the ship? Any thoughts would be greatfully received Thanks in advance Tony Rolfe ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Are they called brickwalls because there is always MORTAR find? ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online?

There is an entry in the IGI for a Louisa Mary Paul, born in May 1846 and baptised in June 1846 at Holy Trinity Gosport. Her parents are John Paul (my GG Grandfather's brother) and Emma (Ensor). Free BMD has a record of a Birth in the June quarter of 1846, Alverstoke, 7, 30 for a Louisa Ann Paul. I have looked at the image for this entry and how anyone deciphered anything of the middle name I don't know! My question is, if I send to the GRO for the Birth Certificate, should I request the certificate for Louisa Jane Paul, Louisa Ann Paul or simply say Louisa Paul? I don't want to specify the parents as John and Emma because if by chance this is a different Louisa Paul then I want to know who her parents were. Which brings up a supplementary question. If one requests a Certificate and specifies "only if parents are X and Y", I understand some portion of the fee is refunded if the restriction doesn't apply. But does the GRO reply saying "We are refunding because the parents in this case were A and B" or do they say "We are refunding because the parents were not X and Y."? -- Jenny M Benson

Ahhh, that makes more sense! Thanks for checking for me. Best wishes, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] Sent: 18 May 2005 20:59 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsea area PR lookups please Hello Sarah have just double checked and the birth date was 20 Nov 1818 but other details as per the previous e-mail. Linda and Tony Having started to work through them I see that: CHU3/1B/15 page 114 no 907 baptised Nov 9 1828 David son of Charles & Hannah HARRIS Born 20 Nov 1828 Cross St Labourer I guess the birth date is wrong (rather than him being baptised before he was born!!!) Thanks, Sarah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005

Hello Linda & Tony If you have 1851 Index for Southampton and Portsea could you kindly look for PATIENCE entries. Many thanks.

Hello Paul, May i also ask a big favour? If you happen across a Thomas Pickles i would appreciate info. Many thanks, Barbara

Greetings I am a new subscriber to your list and I hope someone can help me with a couple of questions... I have found my 3rd great grand aunt Clara HEARD (nee ROLPH) with her musician husband James and daughter Sophia as visitors at 26 Surrey Street, Portsea. Under the street address is the notation "Who'd have thought it". The head of the family is a brewer and beerhouse keeper. Does anyone know whether this was a pub or similar named "Who'd have thought it"? or, if not, what would the annotation have meant? Secondly, is there any possibility that James was actually in two places on census night? James was born in Writtle, Essex, only a few miles fro Chelmsford. There is also a James HEARD, a bandsman, same age, born Chelmsford on "Monarch" at no 10 dock, Portsmouth Dockyard. Could it be that he actually spent the night ashore, but was recorded as being on the ship? Any thoughts would be greatfully received Thanks in advance Tony Rolfe

Morning Rita here are the full marriage details. CHU2/1C/14 St Thomas' Portsmouth page 143 no 286 26th April 1846 Henry HINES,full age,Bachelor,Porter,High St & Elizabeth Ann russell,full age,Spinster,High St,married in the parish church by banns,X signed his mark & Elizabeth signed, fathers Jas HINES,Bricklayer & Jno RUSSELL,Blacksmith,in the presence of too faded to read sorry Rita! Hope it helps,Linda and Tony

Hi Linda & Tony If poss, can you look up this marriage at St Thomas Portsmouth Henry HINES to Elizabeth Ann RUSSELL on 26 April 1846 Thanks Rita

For information on Portsmouth Cathedral _http://www.portsmouth-dio.org.uk/Cathedral/history.htm_ (http://www.portsmouth-dio.org.uk/Cathedral/history.htm) Linda and Tony

No problem Carol let us know if we can check any more out. Take care,Linda and Tony

Thanks a lot - I will keep the map. Pat, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Mitchell-Cole-Coles > In a message dated 18/05/05 21:48:44 GMT Daylight Time, irvnyman@csolve.net > writes: > > 2 questions - is Fanny a nickname for Frances? - it is a shortened version > rather than a nickname > > > Where is Buriton - on the map it is near Petersfield but where is hat? - > Buriton is a small village south east of Petersfield. Petersfield is a market > town appx 20 miles north of Portsmouth - see _www.multimap.co.uk_ > (http://www.multimap.co.uk) > Both Buriton and Petersfield are indiviual parishes. > > Hope this helps > Linda & Tony > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >