Hello Pam could be that your isp in Aus sees the word roots as unacceptable (someone pointed this out to us as we didn't know). We have no filters on our aol account so don't understand. Re the questions you have asked we have some KNIGHTs in Sussex but not as far back as yourself as we have several KNIGHT lines in separate areas/Counties. Re the look ups would suggest you look at our website at _www.knightroots.co.uk_ (http://www.knightroots.co.uk) and click on resources link, this will give you a list of the parish register fiche we have at home which are the only ones we do any look ups from. For particular look ups you cn send them in one e-mail but we don't do blanket searches ie with no date or parish so you will need to provide exact name and date including year. If you're still unsure feel free to ask we're quite happy to help if we can. We will check out full details also from the IGI at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) as we can then in many circumstances provide fathers,and the occupatiosn and witnesses etc. Hope this helps,Linda and Tony

For those of us not in the UK, we don't know which Wednesday this will be on - could you please quote the date and time (GMT of BST OK) so I can view via the Portsmouth Harbour webcam site? Or has the date already passed? Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Mike Your help is greatly appreciated. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Hillmoore@aol.com [mailto:Hillmoore@aol.com] Sent: 21 June 2005 22:00 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Trafalgar ancestry Hi, The only reliable authority is the AYSHFORD TRAFALGAR ROLL which is the lifetimes work of Pam & Derek AYSHFORD who published their research into the 17000 + men who took part in the battle. Three are listed viz John MALLET age 19 from Cornwall serving on HMS SIRIUS George MALLETT age 54 from Cornwall but born Jersey serving on HMS ORION Robert MALLETT age 23 from Plymouth, Stonehouse serving on HMS CONQUEROR the son of Robert & Sarah MALLETT. Killed in action 21 October 1805. All the above is on a CD available from the RN Museum Gift Shop. Mike Waterlooville ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Granny SMITHs aren't just the name of an apple they are in many a family tree too ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hello Tony&Linda I am trying to find the birth of CHARLOTTE ABRAHAM ALVERSTOKE 1811/12, I have found a entry for 1804 so I am not sure if this is the CHARLOTTE I want or if there were 2 CHARLOTTES, When you have time would you look at the records that you have, also she was married ALVERSTOKE 1835 to JOHN READ from SOUTHAMPTON could you check for the wittness for this marriage. Thank you for your time. Best wishes, Syd Hockey.

Sorry Linda & Tony if this is too "off topic" but I thought it might interest those with any connections with Battle of Trafalgar. It's an article from today's Norwich Evening News (Nelson was born in Norfolk) I'm going to shine a light on Lord Nelson's Parade A Craftsman said he was honoured to create three special torches to be used in the Battle of Trafalgar bicentenary celebrations. The torches are made of wood from Nelson's flagship. A craftsman has made torches out of wood from HMS Victory to be used in a commemorative event for the bicentary of the Battle of Trafalgar. Rodney Matless of Crownthorpe, near Wymondham, made the torches using oak from Lord Nelson's flagship. They will feature in the spectacular Torches of Remembrance parade in the International Drumhead Ceremony of Southsea Common, Portsmouth, next Wednesday. ... Profesional cutler, 60 yr old Mr Matless .... was invited by the organisers to make the torches. He spent 40 hours making each one. He said "I feel honoured to have made these torches and I am looking forward to seeing them in the ceremony. Norfolk is Nelson's county. It is fitting that the torches are made here." The three oil-burning torches, made from HMS Victory oak and copper plating, represent the themes of vision, remembrance and service. When they are placed together they resemble belaying pins like those seen on the side of a ship and which ropes are attached to. He said "For the vision torch I chose the worst pieces of wood I could find to show that you make something out of anything, even if it seems impossible" The words peace, justice, freedom, security, hope & friends are engraved on it. The remembrance torch resembles a cross with the saying "In the rising of the sun and in its going down we will remember them" written on it. The service torch includes the phrase 'Blown by one wind. tossed by one wave, united by a common bond' "This torch is slightly slanted to represent it being blown and I have used wood that that shattered by the sea and makes a wave like shape". The three torches were blessed at Burnham Thorpe church, were Nelson's father, Edmund, was once Reverend, before their trip to Portsmouth...." Hope someone finds that useful. Rita

Hello Linda and Tony, Could you please check for me: St Marys Portsea 29 February 1836 Mary Ann SHIRVELL & Benjamin POLAND St Marys Portsea 12 Jan 1846 James SHIRVELL & Elizabeth Bond St Thomas Portsmouth 14 Jan 1849 Elizabeth SHERVILL & John UDY With thanks... Elaine

Not a problem Rita. Linda and Tony

Hi everyone. I have come to a full stop with my family history, having found a marriage for Robert EVANS Somerset Militia to Joanna PHILLIPS at St Mary's Portsea in May 1805 Unfortunately Joanna is stated as being a widow at the time of her marriage to Robert, Is there anyone who has the Portsea parish registers who could look to see if there is a marriage entry for a Joanna to someone with the surname PHILLIPS pre 1805 A tall order I know but I don't know where else to look. I am also researching the surnames PENNINGTON & LOCK in the Portsmouth area. Thankyou very much for any help or advice you may give me. Regards Pat (in Wales)

Hello Pat we have the main two parish register fiche for that time for St Mary's Portsea and St Thomas' Portsmouth, apart from the non conformist ones which we don't have.: The marriages go way back at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) on the IGI there. If you take a look and find a marriage and we have the fiche we are happy to check for you. Linda and Tony Hi everyone. I have come to a full stop with my family history, having found a marriage for Robert EVANS Somerset Militia to Joanna PHILLIPS at St Mary's Portsea in May 1805 Unfortunately Joanna is stated as being a widow at the time of her marriage to Robert, Is there anyone who has the Portsea parish registers who could look to see if there is a marriage entry for a Joanna to someone with the surname PHILLIPS pre 1805 A tall order I know but I don't know where else to look. I am also researching the surnames PENNINGTON & LOCK in the Portsmouth area. Thankyou very much for any help or advice you may give me. Regards Pat (in Wales)

Hi, I am looking for any details on this man and any family. The only confirmed info I have is his presence at his aughters 1st and 2nd marriages and that he was born Cork, Ireland. Daughter MARY ANN TWOMEY age 20years married 1886 father Michael Twomey, farmer, present. Daughters address given as 15 South Parade, married St Mary's Portsea. Bridegroom WILLIAM GOODFELLOW, 21years, tram driver, address 28 Grosvenor Street. 2nd marriage of same daughter St Luke's Church, Landport 1892. Father Michael Twomey, farmer, present. Bridegrom Thomas Gordon, age 30years, labourer, Southsea. Thanks Vicki Until next time..... _________________________________________________________________ Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health

Morning Martin witnesses were required for all marriages from 1754 onwards following the passing of HARDWICKES marriage act 1763. This act required marriages to have 2 witnesses and for the ceremony to be in acordance with the Canons of the church in order to be valid under English law. Prior to the Marriage Act a marriage was valid in law if the 2 spouses had expressed to each other unconditional consent to the union. No particular words were necessary. There was no need for a clergyman or for witnesses. Hope this helps,Linda and Tony In a message dated 22/06/05 08:01:11 GMT Daylight Time, martinwill2@comcast.net writes: is Portsea unusual in having pre-1800 marriage register entries with details of witnesses etc.?

Hi Linda and Tony: Once again you supersleuths have come up with the goods - very quickly too! Thanks very much for those lookups you were able to do. They fill a number of gaps. Also, is Portsea unusual in having pre-1800 marriage register entries with details of witnesses etc.? Since Robert SQUIRE was a widower after his marriage to Martha BOUND and he remarried Hannah RAYNER (nee LANE) in 1806, Martha SQUIRE must have been the daughter from his second marriage Martha Lane SQUIRE (witness to Edmund's marriage). I have recently received a whole family history written by one of Edmund's grandsons, my great-uncle. He states that: "The Kemps were well known Hatters and Manufacturers of Straw Hats for the Navy, there was a large family of Kemps - while Edmund Squire was a Warrant Officer in the Navy, & died by sunstroke at Mauritius, where he was buried", then gives birth and death dates for both: "Edmund Squire Born March 9th 1802, Died Feb 12th 1845 - Sarah Squire Born May 23rd 1803, Died April 18th 1863" This is one of the most staggeringly complete records I've ever found, sent to me by a cousin who descended from Henry William Squire WILLCOCKS (29 Jul 1854 - 22 Jan 1929), and most of it was written by Henry, with some additional information after his death by a daughter of his, as none of his sons survived to adulthood, and he was predeceased by his wife, Mary Ann Howard (28 Feb 1857 - 29 Jan 1915). He wrote it for his children some time after his wife's death, as he mentioned her as his "late wife". There is a whole page of dates of birth (one or two have the wrong year) of relatives before and after his generation. Once again, many thanks for the lookups! Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA. --------- Linda and Tony wrote Hello Martin St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/8 No1179 Robert WILLCOCKS, Bachelor & Mary Ann CONN, Spinster, Both of this parish married in this church by banns 28th December 1797 both signed in the presence of John GRIFFITHS & Lucy DAVIS CHU3/1D/7 No 863 James KEMP,Bachelor & Elizabeth FULLJAMES, Spinster, Both of this parish, married in this church by banns, 4th November 1792 both signed, in the presence of - - -an? ????? & Richd GUDGE CHU3/1D/25 page 3 no 8 Edmund SQUIRE, Bachelor & Sarah KEMP, Spinster, both of this parish were married in this church by banns 8th January 1826 both signed, in the presence of Martha SQUIRE & Robert SQUIRE Alverstoke St Mary's church CHU42/1C/11 page 65 no 194 Henry CLEMENS of this parish & Charlotte TODD of this parish were married in this church by banns with consent of JosephMULLENS 6th February 1826 both signed their mark in the presence of X the marks of Joseph MULLENS & Elizabeth TODD Samuel WILLCOCKS and Maria OSBORNE, 7 Jun 1835 St. Mary's, Portsea. This marriage took place at St Marys church Alverstoke (see IGI).The marriages for Alverstoke 1834-7 are not on fiche so sorry we cannot check out the details for this one. I would also like to know if Mary Jane MAY b. <1857> was chr. at St. Mary's Portsea like her brother William Henry, 5 Apr 1863, and sisters Grace, 12 Jun 1859 and Alice Ann, 31 Mar 1861. I only have her age from the 1881 census to go on, as I have not found her birth registration on FreeBMD (there is only a Mary Ann MAY in 1856 in Kingsclere) IF she was baptised at St Mary's Portsea then she should be on the IGI but without a date sorry a no go there as there were too many to just plough through. (She isn't on the IGI nor FreeBMD, but might be on 1837online - Martin.) Hope the above helps a bit anyway, take care, Linda and Tony ______________________________

Many thanks for these pointers to the men at Trafaglar. I've looked for MALLET and MALLETT on the National Archives, Genuki and Age of Nelson and each gives different answers ! By the way they would have come from Devon and Cornwall and it was only later that my family moved to Portsmouth to work in the Dockyard Mike Mallett

Hi Tony and Linda: Thanks very much for this information. It confirms they are mine. All the best Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:33 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] SPARROWHAWK/ ABRAHAM marriage > > Hello Keith > here are the full marriage details. > > St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/47 > page 5 no 9 November 7th 1848 George SPARROWHAWK, full age, Bachelor, > Seaman, HMS EX???? & Caroline ABRAHAM, full age, Spinster, North End, > married in > the church after banns, fathers Richard SPARROWHAWK,Labourer & John > ABRAHAM,Smith, both signed, in the presence of Charlotte ABRAHAM & John > ABRAHAM > > Hope it helps,Linda & Tony > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi, The only reliable authority is the AYSHFORD TRAFALGAR ROLL which is the lifetimes work of Pam & Derek AYSHFORD who published their research into the 17000 + men who took part in the battle. Three are listed viz John MALLET age 19 from Cornwall serving on HMS SIRIUS George MALLETT age 54 from Cornwall but born Jersey serving on HMS ORION Robert MALLETT age 23 from Plymouth, Stonehouse serving on HMS CONQUEROR the son of Robert & Sarah MALLETT. Killed in action 21 October 1805. All the above is on a CD available from the RN Museum Gift Shop. Mike Waterlooville

Good morning, Searching for info. on Rob Roy Marshall McGREGOR, b. Sussex 25.9.1896, d. 7.4.1969 Q.A. Hospital, Portsmouth. Married Ivy BULSTRODE b. 25.9.1900 Hampshire, d. September 1971 Portsmouth. Only D/C has name Marshall showing. At time of death was living 89 Ramsdale Avenue, Leigh Park, Havant. Son Roy witness and living at same address. Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust.

Hi Linda and Tony Many thanks for this very prompt response. Regards Chris Knightroots@aol.com wrote: Hello Chris here are the full marriage details. Alverstoke CHU42/1C/9 page 45 no 133 Jacob BUSHNELL of this parish & Lucy COLLINS of this parish were married in this church by banns with consent of John GEAR 18th December 1815 signed Jacob BUSHNELL & X signed the mark of Lucy COLLINS, in the presence of X the mark of George BL- CKNE--?? & John GEAR Linda and Tony . ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Could some sks please look up the marriage of Jacob BUSHNELL to Lucy COLLINS on 18 December 1815 in Alverstoke. Many Thanks Chris

Thank you so much for this Linda & Tony, very much appreciated indeed! kindest regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/05

If anyone finds a link with any of the sailors who were present at Trafalgar please get in touch with me off site. A colleague of mine Captain Peter Hore RN has already accomplished a great deal for a project called "Sons and daughters of Trafalgar" and a reception is planned in Portsmouth during the forthcoming International Festival of the Sea. Those of you in far distant lands can see the comings and goings in the harbour by going to the Harbour eye website on _www.portsmouth.co.uk_ (http://www.portsmouth.co.uk) . Mike Waterlooville