The naval service record of one of mine shows that he served on HMS VICTORY lll in 1899 and HMS VICTORY l in 1907,1908, 1918 and 1922. Does anyone know the difference? David

Hello, the above names are of those I am researching in the Portsmouth/Southsea/Portsea area's pre-1920's. Would love contact with anyone with an interest in these names.Some Gordon/Goodfellow family immigrated to New Zealand. Thanking you Vicki New Zealand. Until next time..... _________________________________________________________________ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channel&tcid=200731

Many thanks for an erudite and comprehensive explanation Philip

Hi Clive Just to let you know that no Sandon's in Portsmouth from 1956 to 1960? Very strange! Hope this helps Paul Stacey Clive Sandon <csandon@ozemail.com.au> wrote: Dear Friends My Sandon family came from Portsmouth. Is anybody connected to or knows of these 2 lads??? Anthony George Robert Sandon b. Portsmouth 1954 Michael John Sandon b. Portsmouth 1957? Many thanks Clive Sandon Brisbane, Australia Researching Sandon, Sly, Bonus, Billing, Bush, Cox, Christian, King families in England/Australia 1850 to present day. ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Don't go barking up the wrong tree be like a good chef and ALWAYS check your SOURCES ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail

Hi Philip, may I suggest that you try the "mariners" list. They are a very knowledgable group of listers and will I feel sure give you the info you want. Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: EWRAYSURE@aol.com [mailto:EWRAYSURE@aol.com] Sent: 04 July 2005 13:19 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Naval musters book terms 1859 re:HMS Asia, Portsmouth Have just returned from a trip to the PRO where I found my great, great grandfather's details in the muster book for HMS Asia which was a barracks hulk in Portsmouth Harbour. Does anyone have any comments about the following, please: Previous ship - Tribune. Any details known? Was this also a hulk? Under the column, "Whither.." this is recorded - "Shore P P L". What does this mean? For three years he received a wage for the "Tuition of Young Gentlemen". Does this refer to all trainee seamen or priviledged young people only. (I remember Hornblower's special treatment of "young gentlemen" whose backs Bush wanted to scratch.) Incidentally, his wage was 1/7d a day in 1859! Thanks in anticipation Philip ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.8 - Release Date: 30/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.8 - Release Date: 30/06/2005

PPL possibly Placed on Pension List. HMS Tribune was fairly busy from 1854 to 1855 with the Crimean War destroying a Russian Tower in 1854, the 1st Bombardment of Sevastopol 1854, destroying the Kimburne Forts 1855 and the 2nd Bombardment of Sevastopol. She then moved to the South China sea where her ships boats were in action at Canton destroying many war boats. The young gentlemen being educated would be Cadets and Midshipmen although training underwent a major change in 1853. The rate of pay would indicate a rank of Leading Seaman so the men under training could be gunners. JohnWinton's "Hurrah for the Life of a Sailor" would provide valuable background to this period. (1st published in 1977) Mike Waterlooville

Hello Joan, I'm sure someone far more knowledgeable than I will come up with better information, but in the meantime..... there is Chapel Cemetery on the corner of Eastern Road and New Road, Havant and there is Waterlooville Cemetery in Hulbert Road, Waterlooville [which is actually quite close to Ramsdale Ave], then of course there is Portchester Crematorium in Dore Ave., Portchester. Hope this is of some help. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm & Joan Colmer" <n_j_colmer@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 5:01 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] McGregor > Good afternoon, > > Not having much luck with my enquiries re: Rob Roy Maxwell McGregor who d.7.4.1969 Queen Alexandra Hospital, Portsmouth. His address prior to that was 89 Ramsdale Avenue, Leigh Park, Havant. Does anyone have any idea as to which cemeteries are close to these addresses, please? > > Regards, Joan. Sydney. Australia. > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T > SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Good afternoon, Not having much luck with my enquiries re: Rob Roy Maxwell McGregor who d.7.4.1969 Queen Alexandra Hospital, Portsmouth. His address prior to that was 89 Ramsdale Avenue, Leigh Park, Havant. Does anyone have any idea as to which cemeteries are close to these addresses, please? Regards, Joan. Sydney. Australia.

Have just returned from a trip to the PRO where I found my great, great grandfather's details in the muster book for HMS Asia which was a barracks hulk in Portsmouth Harbour. Does anyone have any comments about the following, please: Previous ship - Tribune. Any details known? Was this also a hulk? Under the column, "Whither.." this is recorded - "Shore P P L". What does this mean? For three years he received a wage for the "Tuition of Young Gentlemen". Does this refer to all trainee seamen or priviledged young people only. (I remember Hornblower's special treatment of "young gentlemen" whose backs Bush wanted to scratch.) Incidentally, his wage was 1/7d a day in 1859! Thanks in anticipation Philip

Hi Joan, There are three possibilities. Internment would have been at the Warblington or Hulbert Rd cemetry and cremation at the Porchester Crematorium. The BMD section of the Portsmouth Evening News ( now The News) might have an entry publishing funeral details but these details are not on the internet. The Hampshire Genealogical Society would have certainly recorded the monumental inscription if a headstone was put up. Hope this helps a little. Mike Waterlooville

Thank you very much Linda & Tony for the help, I'm very grateful to you for all you have done on my behalf........hmmmmm now I have something else to mull over [chuckle] My very kindest regards, Pat B > -----Original Message----- > From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] > Sent: 02 July 2005 21:28 > To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Whiley marriage > > > Hello Pat > here are the full marriage details. > > CHU42/1C/9 Alverstoke > page 60 no180 William WHILEY of this parish & Diana JANES > of this parish > were married in this church by banns with consent of Henry > ABBINETT 2nd July > 1819 signed X the mark of Wm WHILEY & X the mark of Diana > JANES, in the presence of Henry ABBINETT & Joseph GEAR > > Hope it helps,Linda and Tony > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the > knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added > in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Martin here are the two marriages at St Thomas' Portsmouth. St Thomas' Portsmouth CHU2/1C/9 page 69 no 205 John KEMP of this parish, Bachelor & Mary Ann HEATHER of this parish, Spinster were married in this church by banns 12 November 1820 signed by both, in the presence of John HEATHER & Elizabeth HEATHER : CHU2/1C/9 page 181 no 543 John KEMP Musician of the parish R Marine Band, Bachelor & Leanes BOYCE of this parish, Spinster were married in this church by banns, 2nd December 1823 signed John KEMP & X the mark of Leanes BOYCE, in the presence of William JOHNSON & Robt HATCH Note not described as a Widower... Linda and Tony

Hello Martin here are the full marriage details. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/24 page 102 no 304 Richard George KEMP,Bachelor & Mary DENTON,Spinster,both of this parish were married in this church by banns 29th October 1825, both signed, in the presence of Sarah JAMES & Thos DENTON Linda and Tony .

Hello Pat here are the full marriage details. CHU42/1C/9 Alverstoke page 60 no180 William WHILEY of this parish & Diana JANES of this parish were married in this church by banns with consent of Henry ABBINETT 2nd July 1819 signed X the mark of Wm WHILEY & X the mark of Diana JANES, in the presence of Henry ABBINETT & Joseph GEAR Hope it helps,Linda and Tony

Hello Tony & Ann: When you get a chance could you please find details on the following weddings: From IGI-----James William ABRAHAM---Sarah Elinor CLEULL 20 Sep 1874 St Mary's, Portsea. James age matches for marriage, IGI birth and 1881 census. However, I believe(hope) Sarah's IGI name has been misinscribed on the IGI index and should be Sarah Eliza CLEALL per BMD Sept. Q 1874 marriage. Her year of birth on 1881 census matches age noted on the IGI marriage after the math. . From IGI----Robert ABRAHAM----Ellen PAYNE 11 Sep 1853 St. Mary's, Portsea From IGI----Cornelius ABRAHAM----Elizabeth Collins 19 April 1846 St. Mary's, Portsea From IGI----William ABRAHAM----Elizabeth TOOGOOD 31 Jan. 1837, St. Mary's, Portsea. Thanks very much: Keith Victoria, BC.

You are very kind, what a wonderful offer. I actually do have the parish records for a son Henry WILEY at Alverstoke born 31 May 1820 - Baptised 2 July 1820. Father William was in the Royal Marine Artillery and their abode was Ewer Common. Then another for William WILEY at Alverstoke born March 1822 and baptised 24 Mar 1822. Nothing more up to 1830 there. I then found their daughter Jane WHILEY baptised at St. Thomas in Portsmouth on 3 June 1827 and their abode was Marine Barracks and William was a Gunner in RMA. All children had the mother Diana. I found no others for them there, but I have traced the family over to the Ascension Isles around 1839 where some births, baps and marriages took place. So perhaps the period of time between children Henry, William and Jane was when William senior was away earlier and Diana got a few years break as it were. I am keen to obviously find both Diana and William [senior] place of birth or an indication of their parents to progress back further, so any help would be amazing and I'd be most grateful for any pointers that you come up with. Thank you again, Pat B > -----Original Message----- > From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] > Sent: 02 July 2005 12:43 > To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] ALVERSTOKE PARISH RECORDS > > Do you have th full baptism details Pat or just the IGI info? > If you only have the IGI info and you provide us with the > names, full dates including year we'll check them out for you too. > Linda and Tony > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Family historian love graveyards they are the sort of places > they like to visit to meet up with old relatives > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Thank you Tony & Linda, All I have on their marriage is what I found on the LDS site which is; William Whiley and Diana Janes were married July 2, 1819 at Alverstoke. Their first two sons were also born there and I have those baptisms, plus a daughter baptised at Portsmouth. Thank you so much, Regards PatB > -----Original Message----- > From: Knightroots@aol.com [mailto:Knightroots@aol.com] > Sent: 02 July 2005 11:04 > To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] ALVERSTOKE PARISH RECORDS > > > Hello Pat > if you provide the full date including year we will check for you. > We wait to hear from you,Linda and Tony: > > Would AKS be viewing the parish records for Alverstoke to > cover marriages 1819? I would appreciate any information on > the marriage between William Whiley/Wiley and Diana Janes, > particularly parents names or parish/place of births. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the > knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thank you Jon, Yes this was what I had to go by plus baptisms of their children and a later bap/marriage of their daughter Jane. Thank you again, Pat B > -----Original Message----- > From: J P NIXEY [mailto:jpnixey@btinternet.com] > Sent: 02 July 2005 11:16 > To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Whiley marriage > > Hiya Pat, Tony and Linda, > > This would appear to be the entry: > > William Whiley and diana Janes > married July 2, 1819 at Alverstoke > > found on the LDS site. > > regards to all, > > Jon > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/05 > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hiya Pat, Tony and Linda, This would appear to be the entry: William Whiley and diana Janes married July 2, 1819 at Alverstoke found on the LDS site. regards to all, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/05

Would AKS be viewing the parish records for Alverstoke to cover marriages 1819? I would appreciate any information on the marriage between William Whiley/Wiley and Diana Janes, particularly parents names or parish/place of births. Thank you so very much, Regards Pat B