A ship's rigging is her masts and ropes that support the sails, and a rigger is a man who maintains and arranges it. Dangerous work, as a slip often was a fatal fall. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ware" <ware1973@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:08 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Osborne > I have just discovered that my maternal gg grandfather served on board > the royal yacht HMS Osborne in 1881 as Rigger. Does anybody know of a > website that can tell me both about the ship and about riggers? I have > put it into google but can only find pictures of the ship. > > Many thanks > Mark > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Here are a few details David HMS Osborne, ? 1870 Type: Royal Yacht ; Completed ? : 19 Dec 1870 ; Disposal date or year § : 1908 BM: 1536 tons ; Displacement: 1850 tons Propulsion: Paddle Machinery notes: 3360 hpi 450 Notes: 1870 Building at Pembroke 12 Jun 1874 Commissioned at Portsmouth 1879 Portsmouth. It is noted that the Captain is Cdr. The Rt Hon Lord Charles W.D. Beresford ; Lt. Hon. Coyningham E. Denison and Lt H.S.H. Prince Louis of Battenberg amongst others. Apr 1886 Portsmouth 1890 Portsmouth. 24 June 1900 Khedive Arrives in the Osborne from the Continent. Steamed to Sheerness and received a 21 gun salute from the Sanspareil, at Garrison Point Fort, followed by similar salutes from the cruisers Argonaut and Galatea. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ware" <ware1973@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:08 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Osborne > I have just discovered that my maternal gg grandfather served on board > the royal yacht HMS Osborne in 1881 as Rigger. Does anybody know of a > website that can tell me both about the ship and about riggers? I have > put it into google but can only find pictures of the ship. > > Many thanks > Mark > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi, You could try TheShips List and Mariners-L. Very good knowledgeable people on those lists, not to say there is none on this list... All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ware" <ware1973@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:08 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Osborne I have just discovered that my maternal gg grandfather served on board the royal yacht HMS Osborne in 1881 as Rigger. Does anybody know of a website that can tell me both about the ship and about riggers? I have put it into google but can only find pictures of the ship. Many thanks Mark ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

You can see what a "fully rigged ship" looks like at: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/shipsrigging.htm A site by Gilbert Provost. Edna - Ottawa

Hi, You could try TheShips List and Mariners-L. Very good knowledgeable people on those lists, not say there is none on this list... All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ware" <ware1973@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:08 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] HMS Osborne I have just discovered that my maternal gg grandfather served on board the royal yacht HMS Osborne in 1881 as Rigger. Does anybody know of a website that can tell me both about the ship and about riggers? I have put it into google but can only find pictures of the ship. Many thanks Mark ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

You will find a good account of the Royal Yacht Osborne in Royal Yachts of the World by Tim Madge published 1997 - ISBN 0 901281 74 3. Admiral Lord Charles Beresford was Flag Officer Royal Yachts in 1881. Mike Waterlooville Royal Yacht Britannia 1960-63

Hi Glenys, There are several Fish Curers on the Census, could it be that? Regards Jean

Just a reminder to the list, I live a 100 yards away from the Cerm'. If any listers wish me to make any enquires I will do so. Names are all indexed . If you have a name that you want checked they will give me a print out of all the cremations under that name. Please bear in mind that they will not give out address that you do not know.The Crem' opened in 1958. Regards Bazzer Portchester Fareham Hampshire www.clarkeology.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005

Just to let you all know that dispite my computer problems (Fire!) I managed to find a hard copy of an old email. Something my son tells me I shouldn't do! Regards Bazzer Portchester Fareham Hampshire www.clarkeology.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005

Pleased for you Bazzer that's good news. Take care,Linda and Tony

Hello Listers My 8 x ggf, John ROBINS, was bured at Alverstoke in 1672. Would the church be St Mary's? Many thanks. Pam cliveden@acenet.net.au Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia.

Hi Rita, that site is a treasure trove, and I have passed it on to others. Thanks for prompting me to look for it! Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Newton" <newton.r@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] End of WW2 Celebrations - Has Gosport info > Hi Margaret & all > > Yes, that was the one thank you. Spent some time on it today. > > Did a search on Gosport & it came up with masses of articles, covering > women > working at Priddys Hard, children evacuees, Hardway & D Day, someone whose > mother had a milk round with Dyers Dairy, Stokes Bay being out of bounds > and > much more. I imagine they have loads more on Portsmouth. > > It is well worth a visit - I think the site is up until the end of the > year. > Rita > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret" <margaret@gorseport.fsworld.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] End of WW2 Celebrations > > >> Hi Rita >> Is this the one? >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/ >> >> Regards >> Margaret >> >> >> >> > Watched this today, at the end they mentioned a website where people >> > can >> > record their memories of WW2, It maybe "People's War" does anyone know >> > the full web address? >> > Rita >> >> >> ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 >> > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Granny SMITHs aren't just the name of an apple they are in many a family > tree too > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Margaret & all Yes, that was the one thank you. Spent some time on it today. Did a search on Gosport & it came up with masses of articles, covering women working at Priddys Hard, children evacuees, Hardway & D Day, someone whose mother had a milk round with Dyers Dairy, Stokes Bay being out of bounds and much more. I imagine they have loads more on Portsmouth. It is well worth a visit - I think the site is up until the end of the year. Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <margaret@gorseport.fsworld.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] End of WW2 Celebrations > Hi Rita > Is this the one? > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/ > > Regards > Margaret > > > > > Watched this today, at the end they mentioned a website where people can > > record their memories of WW2, It maybe "People's War" does anyone know > > the full web address? > > Rita > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Hello Listers I've been checking information I have stored on various ROBINS Wills. When I was in Winchester in 1992, I took note of early ROBINS Wills as follows: 1544 Willmus ROBINS de Winton 1562 Georgius ROBINS de Portsmouth 1576 ffranciscus ROBINS de Portsmouth 1577 Rogerus ROBINS de Quit Winton (Book 1, Folio 128). I have traced my ROBINS line back to a Will of John ROBINS proved in 1672. His date of birth was possibly around 1610. He married firstly (name unknown) before about 1635 and had two sons, John and Thomas. I'm descended through the latter. He married secondly to Alice (surname unknown) - from her Will it is clear that she is not the mother of John's two sons. In John's Will signed 24 Apr 1671, he describes himself as 'Mariner of Gosport'. Thomas, in his Will signed 7 Apr 1697, describes himself as 'Shipwright of Gosport'. It is thought that Thomas married Ann (surname unknown) around 1658. I don't have the Wills for Willmus, Georgius., ffrancicus or Rogerus. I think I ran out of time back in Winchester. If anyone can point me in the right direction for any of these queries, I'd be grateful. I can't find Winton on Parish Locator. Many thanks. Pam cliveden@acenet.net.au Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia.

Many thanks to all who replied to my call for help regarding information on the Caost Guard Station, Budleigh Salterton. You have given me enough leads to keep my fingers pounding the keyboard for the next few days. Donald Wood Portland, Oregon

I have a booklet in my possession compiled by Lesley A Burton and Beryl F Peacey called VICTORY! GOSPORT REMEMBERS VE DAY It was published in April 1995 and the following made contributions Abrams, Bradley, Bailey, Barnett, Campbell, Cawte, Clements, Dimock, Davidson, Ebbutt, Gummer, Hulbert, Mansfield, Norman, Lloyd, Price, Peacey, Purnell, Roberts, Symonds, Swire, Varndel, Viggers, Vince, Walters & Wright It bears the logo of the St Vincent Adult education. I think it had a fairly wide distribution, mine came from an Aunt in her nineties Mike Waterlooville Ebay might be worth a try.

Hi he is listed in Naval War Deaths 1914-1921 FUNNELL Thomas R oh Yeo Sigs Greenwich 1921 RN 1407 I have the page saved if you wish to contact me off-list Suze ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm & Joan Colmer" <n_j_colmer@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:52 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fw: > Re-posting: > > Good Morning, > > The CWGC website shows: Thos. R. FUNNELL- Yoeman RN - d. 20.1.1920, aged > 37, his service number and nationality, served on HMS Greenwich, buried > Worthing (Broadwater) Cemetery. Husband of my g/aunt Frances Gertrude > (McGregor) Funnell. My question: If he did not die serving during WW 1, > why is he mentioned on CWGC site? I have not been able to find him on > St.Cath's House Index. > > Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust. > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T > SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 > >

Re-posting: Good Morning, The CWGC website shows: Thos. R. FUNNELL- Yoeman RN - d. 20.1.1920, aged 37, his service number and nationality, served on HMS Greenwich, buried Worthing (Broadwater) Cemetery. Husband of my g/aunt Frances Gertrude (McGregor) Funnell. My question: If he did not die serving during WW 1, why is he mentioned on CWGC site? I have not been able to find him on St.Cath's House Index. Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust.

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Hi Joan As Jean says, those who died as a result of injuries or illness caused by service in the Great War are eligible for an entry on the CWGC site, up to a certain date. I forget the precise end date for inclusion on the CWGC site, but it was about 2 years after the end of both World Wars. Many army personnel suffering from the effects of gas and trench foot etc., my grand father included, died shortly after the end of the war, and similary, many matelots who served in RN Divisions which fought in the trenches on the Western Front ; there is also evidence to suggest that some of those who served on board ship died later from the effects of TB contracted during the War. Even during my time in the service, post WWII, there was still a worry with TB, and we were all subject to the usual annual checks. A check of the Death Certificate might give a clue to those who know about these things ! Regards Paul On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:52:37 +1000, "Norm & Joan Colmer" <n_j_colmer@bigpond.com> wrote: >Re-posting: > >Good Morning, > >The CWGC website shows: Thos. R. FUNNELL- Yoeman RN - d. 20.1.1920, aged 37, his service number and nationality, served on HMS Greenwich, buried Worthing (Broadwater) Cemetery. Husband of my g/aunt Frances Gertrude (McGregor) Funnell. My question: If he did not die serving during WW 1, why is he mentioned on CWGC site? I have not been able to find him on St.Cath's House Index. > >Regards, Joan. Sydney. Aust. 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html