thanks Edna and Ken wish I could round my years off like that LOL. I cant seem to find anyone with the 1851 to double check. still keep trying Nice to hear from you Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna & Ken" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] 1841 Census > Hi, As far as I know the 1841 was the only Census rounded down. I think > it led to more confusion than anything else. > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hi, Any one looking for a marriage of Samuel Clift and Ellen Urry? Edna - Ottawa

Apologies to the previous message sent in goggledy gook from us). If you need any IGI entry checked out pleae let us know see www.knightroots.co.uk then check resources. Linda and Tony Meg is a new subscriber now subscribed Please reply on list to her if you have any connection to BRAMBLE Hi Everybody, > I am interested in the BRAMBLE family of Portsea in Hampshire, particularly > Benjamin BRAMBLE who married Mary Ann ROSS in 1810. As one of my R=D6HSS > family had the middle name BRAMBLE, I wondered if Mary Ann was really of the > R=D6HSS family. Any takers? > Meg, W. Sussex

Hi, Been trying to do some work with Batch Nos. Is there anything wrong with the LDS site www.familysearch.org/ ? Thanks, Edna Ottawa

Hi, As far as I know the 1841 was the only Census rounded down. I think it led to more confusion than anything else. Edna - Ottawa

1841 Census ages: Under 15 as it is stated, and the rest down to the nearest five. For me that's a great idea! Edna - Ottawa

Think we've sussed ok +10 hours... Linda and Tony

Can anyone tell me the time difference between Tasmania Australia and England please at present? Thanks Linda and Tony

Hi again Pam I live in Forton! I would say it is about one and a half miles north of Alverstoke village, as the crow flies. Also about a mile NW from the centre of Gosport town It is quite an old place http://www.gosport.gov.uk/sections/living gives some history. Regards Margaret > Pam wrote: > I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in > Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, > please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out > near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent > establishment? > > Many thanks. > Pam > > cliveden@acenet.net.au > > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia >

Hello Pam this should help also. http://www.hants.gov.uk/localpages/south_east/gosport/forton/ Kind regards Linda and Tony

Hello Pam see http://www.gosport.info/Gosport_Maps/Forton_Map_1832/forton_map_1832.html Hope this helps,Linda and Tony I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent establishment? Many thanks. Pam

Found the info I was looking for! To request a Hampshire Will lookup, go to http://members.lycos.co.uk/s0uthbury/index.html (never sure whether that is a zero or a capital O!) and ask Ann for a surname lookup. Copies of the Wills can be ordered from Hampshire Records Office www.hants.gov.uk/record-office/services/photocopy/.html Charges are £3 for UK. £5 for other countries for 1st search with all other searches charged at £3. Ann's website is well worth a visit, even if you don't have Isle of Wight connections - you never know who you might find at Parkhurst Prison! Rita

No you haven't Sue. Eilleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Brown" <paul@whiteley8998.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Re: HMS The Duke of Wellington census returns > Hi Eileen not sure if I have asked about your Ovenden connections b4 > Regards > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eilleen E Ovenden" <eilleenovenden@netspace.net.au> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:47 PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Re: HMS The Duke of Wellington census > returns > > >>I have the census for the Duke of Wellington in 1901, or part of it @ >> RG13/1000 >> >> As I understand it she was a permanent fixture in the harbour for a very >> long period. >> >> HTH >> Eilleen >> Sunshine Coast >> Queensland >> >> >> >> >>> Please could anyone tellme if there were census returns for HMS Duke of >>> Wellington,I am looking for a sailor who gave that ship as the one he >>> was >>> serving on onhis daughters birth certificate in Portsea in 1890, his >>> name >>> was Anthony Rattenbury [or Rottenbury Griffiths and he was born >>> Birmingham. >>> Thanks, >>> Liz >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: >> 15/08/2005 >> >> > > ______________________________

Good Day, Would someone be able to check Sarah Crook b. 1822 Hambledon in the 1851 Census please. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

Hi Linda and tony, I've been sent a date of baptism for a Henry Albury at St John's, Forton. The date is written as 11/04/1858 which I presume to be April 11th, rather than november 4th? Or, is it? lol I'll plump for april 11th, and if it's wrong, can you check for November 4th please? lol Thanks in advance, kind regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 8/18/05

Dear Jon, I found my great-grandmother, Mary DUST, (b.Belfast, Ireland), listed as widow on the 1901 census, living Unicorn St, Portsmouth. She had married Henry DUST, (b Iron Acton, Gloucestershire), in 1868 and I found his regiment's moves round the world, where their children were born, some died. This was from the Gloucestershire Regiment site. The Gloucesters were in Portsmouth in 1882, (also found that on this list) and my DUSTs must have settled then, they are all in Unicorn St. on the 1891. Family story was that he had been committed to an asylum after a bad illness during which he had threatened her. A kind lister pointed me in the right direction and I found him alive on the 1901 in Portsmouth Lunatic Asylum, Milton. Henry DUST, Patient, married, 61, Army Pensioner, b.Gloucestershire. My grandmother, his daughter-in-law, said he was no more mad than the rest of us, she visited him a lot, and loved him. So Mary DUST said she was a widow, whereas she was technically still married. However I'm not suggesting you trawl through the Lunatic Asylums! Happy hunting, Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005

I have the census for the Duke of Wellington in 1901, or part of it @ RG13/1000 As I understand it she was a permanent fixture in the harbour for a very long period. HTH Eilleen Sunshine Coast Queensland > Please could anyone tellme if there were census returns for HMS Duke of > Wellington,I am looking for a sailor who gave that ship as the one he was > serving on onhis daughters birth certificate in Portsea in 1890, his name > was Anthony Rattenbury [or Rottenbury Griffiths and he was born > Birmingham. > Thanks, > Liz

thanks to everyone who replied on this subject. I've thought about it some more and there could be another reason why she called herself widowed. I'll paint the picture as I'm currently aware of it. I'll just use the year rather than exact dates for ease. In 1825, George Parsons who was aboard HMS ?? married Elizabeth childs at St Marys, Portsea. so far, I have only been able to find 2 children, Elizabeth b1832/d1832, and Sarah Jane b1835, both girls born in fareham. In 1843, Elizabeth had another daughter, Rhoda, the father being George Allberry and Elizabeth's surname was Parsons on Rhoda's birth certificate. rhoda was chr with the surname Aubrey. Elizabeth had a son James in 1846, surname spelled as Aldbury, and this time Elizabeth's surname matched George's. James was chr with the surname Aubrey. So it would appear that George and Elizabeth were married between 1843 and 1846, although there's not a sign of a marriage anywhere. Neither is there a sign of George Parsons' death, could he have been lost at sea, presumed dead? Did Elizabeth simply take on George's surname as she couldn't marry him because she couldn't prove her husband was dead? In 1847 another son is born, Henry, surname spelled Aubery, and he was to become my wife's great grandfather. In 1851 the family name appears as Allbray on the census for Fareham, and George is alive and well working as a labourer. In 1858 Henry was chr at St Johns, Forton, gosport with the surname Albury. his father George is recorded as a labourer from Fareham, with no mention of him being deceased. There appears to be almost a year's discrpancy with regards Henry's date of birth, the chr details saying Dec 4 1848, and Dec 17 1847 on his birth certificate. In 1861 Elizabeth shows up at Gosport with the surname of williams, and she is recorded as a widow. All 3 children, Rhoda, James and Henry also have the Williams surname. there is no record yet found of a marriage between an Elizabeth Childs/Parsons/Albray (or variant) and someone by the name of Williams, although on her death certificate in 1887, Elizabeth is recorded as the widow of the late Genge Williams. I can't find any trace on him either! In 1868 Rhoda married henry Hawkins, and her father is recorded as George Albray, again no mention of him being deceased. In 1871 Henry married Charlotte Harvey, and this is the first time that George albray is recorded as deceased. From 1843 through to 1858, george was always recorded as a labourer, but on Henry's marriage certificate he was recorded as a seaman. I've thought about the possiblity of George Parsons and George albray being the same person, and even maybe Genge Williams, but, if that is the case, why would Rhoda's birth certificate have her parents as George Allberry and Elizabeth Parsons? Did george albray just disappear off the scene between 1858 and 1861, and Elizabeth decide to change her surname for some reason, and if so who on earth is Genge Williams? did the widow comment refer to George Parsons, not george albray? So many questions, and yet, so far, not a single answer. If anyone has picked up any possible senarios after reading this, I'd love to hear from them, before I totally lose my mind! lol Kind regards to everyone, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 8/17/05

Don't forget there were also Portsmouth South [Fawcett Road] and Portsmouth Northern [Mayfield Road] Grammar Schools. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret jessup" <maggie2lo@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth schools > Dear List, > Family legend has it that Henry Jessup was Head Boy of Portsmouth Grammar School round about 1910/15. The archivist of the school can find no record of the fact. I am not quite convinced. However there is another alternative and that is Gosport Grammar School. Can anyone tell me where I can find records of both Portsmouth and Gosport Grammar Schools for this period. Any help would be most appreciated. > Thank you, Margaret Jessup. > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Linda and Tony Everthing you have done for me has been helpfull one way or another. thanks very much as always you fan in Cairns . Rod p.s. I suppose there was no info about a birth date. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:20 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] ] Christening look up for Clarinda Stiles. > > Hello Rod > St Marys Portsea CHU3/1A/13 > Clarinda daughter of George and Clarinda STILES baptised July 17 1808 > > Hope it helps,Linda and Tony > > Can i ask for a look up for Clarinda Stiles christened 17 July 1808 St > Mary's , Portsea, Hampshire if its not to much trouble. > Alway with many thanks. > Rod Pashley > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Don't go barking up the wrong tree be like a good chef and ALWAYS check > your SOURCES > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/67 - Release Date: 9/08/2005 > >