The marriage entry and baptism relating to the BRAMLEs wer spelled ROSS. On free BMD site there is a marriage for a Jemima ROHSS Dec 1/4 1871 Portsea district. Also if you go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm clcik on country slection menu, then England,then Hampshire and then P for Portsea put in a name top right hand corner and close a window each time you click on a church and the name will return on its own for the surname ie ROHSS. There will be a variation as many couldn't read or write and therefore there was a tendency to write as sounded. Hope you can understand what we have written it isn't as awfl as it sounds and very fruitful. Good luck Meg. Linda and Tony Thanks very much for the information re Mary Ann Ross. Are you able to say if there were any Röhss entries in the Portsea area?

Hi Philip, I have a Elizabeth Collins in my family tree, but she was born around 1816 in the same area, Elizabeth married James Stallard! Val Petrie K Wood <krwood@shaw.ca> wrote: Hello Philip I have an Elizabeth Collins b. 1825 m. Cornelius Abraham b. 1824--19 April, 1846 St. Mary's Portsea. Hope this helps Keith Victoria Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:38 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Collins, Taw, Proctor families in Old Portsmouth > Does anyone have an interest in the families noted above > in the nineteenth century, please > > Philip > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Don't go barking up the wrong tree be like a good chef and ALWAYS check your SOURCES ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Hello Margaret if you go to www.familysearch.org and then IGI and type in batch number C062491 you will see there is a Mary Ann BLEACH in 1821 and in 1851 a Martha but no Mary Ann see what you think maybe she is one but maybe not.. Trouble is a birth place isn't always a baptism place and a 1/4 on BMD could be a baptism anytime from birth to adulthood. The baptism could have taken place anywhere in or out of the area too say Portsea (many churches) as an example. Family history is fun isn't it) Sorry,Linda and Tony Free BMD shows the birth of Mary Ann BLEACH at Havant in the June quarter of 1853. Would it be possible to see if there is a baptism recorded at Havant church please? Thank you. Margaret

Hello Meg in case you don't have these. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1A/1 baptised 29th May 1791 Benj son of Benj and Ann BRAMBLE CHU3/1D/6 page 278 Benjamin BRAMBLE, Bachelor and Ann LIPSCOMB, Spinster both of this parish married in this church by banns 8th May 1788 signed Benj BRAMBLE and X signed the mark of Ann LIPSCOMB,in the presence of Richard STROUD and Richd GUDGE CHU3/1D/11 No 509 Benjamin BRAMBLE,Bachelor and Mary Ann ROSS,Spinster,both of this parish,were married in this church by banns 18th November 1810 signed B BRAMBLE and Mary Ann ROSS in the presence of Ann? BRAMBLE and X the mark of John ROSS Hope they help,Linda and Tony

baptised June 28 1818 and fathers occupation was Labourer. Kind regards,Linda and Tony Hi Linda & Tony Managed to miss out the date of a baptism I picked up at Gosport Library, hope you can supply the missing info. CHU42/1B/1 Page 229 no 1831 James, son of Thomas & Ann HINES, Hardway, born 1 June 1818 Thanks Rita

Hello Margaret here are the full marriage details. St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1D/41 page 110 no 219 November 14th 1842 Richard VOYSEY,full age,Bachelor,Cordwainer,Broad Street and Frances GARDENER,full age,Spinster,Broad Street,married in this church by banns,X signed their marks, fathers William VOYSEY,Gardener and William GARDENER,Sawyer,in the presence of Louisa HAYWARD and George VOYSEY Hope it helps,Linda and Tony Dear Linda and Tony, Could you kindly do another look-up for me please? Richard Voysey married Frances Gardener on 14 Nov 1842 at St Mary's, Portsea.

Just checked and both birth AND baptism are both 1868 Rita. Kind regards,Linda and Tony Hi Linda & Tony I've made another error in info from Gosport Library visit. Could you please check CHU42/1B/5 Baptisms at Alverstoke Page 361 no 2887. Florence Alvena Butland, I have her baptism date as 1 Nov 1868 and her birth as 31 August 1869!! Could you please let me know whether it is 1868 or 1869. Many thanks Rita

Linda and Tony You don't by any chance have my great great grandmother in there, do you? She murdered her daughter and two stepsons in Titchfield in 1891, was tried in Winchester in 1892 and spent 53 years in Broadmoor until she died in 1945. David Blake --- Edna & Ken <ekbrit@rogers.com> wrote: > Thanks Linda and Tony for stories from "A History of > The Hampshire & Isle of > Wight Constabulary". Of course, you will not find > any of my good people in > there! > > Edna ~ (;-))ttawa > > ---- > > More from "A History of The Hampshire & Isle of > Wight Constabulary > 1839-1966" > > > > Aldershot 1906 - Sergeant Eades and Constable Pope > were highly commended > for > their "praiseworthy perseverance" in tracing a > horse, cart and harness > stolen from Aldershot. The officers continued their > enquiries on bicycles > for > several days "finally arresting the thieves and > recovering the stolen > property at > Birmingham" > > > Meonstoke - June 1899 - First Class Constable > Jennings was "commended for > his prompt action in a case of larceny. He had > traced the 2 men responsible > on > his bicycle and arrested them at Guildford with the > stolen property in their > posession" > > Broughton (year not stated but in 1865-1890 section) > - Constable Meacham > "who had brought discredit on the Force by joining > in a party given by > dishonest > servants in their employers house at Broughton. This > sordid carouse had not > broken up until 4am. Far from protecting poperty, > more especially in the > absence of the owner, Meacham had assisted in > misusing it. He was dismissed > the > service and in addition, fined a weeks pay" > > > > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at > www.knightroots.co.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Linda and Tony Many thanks for the URLs you sent. I'll check them out. One reply told me that Forton became a Parish in its own right in 1841, so it is possible that my 'lost' Alverstoke rellies who were on the 1841 Census were buried from there. From reading the replies, it seems that Ann's Hill cemetery could be a possible 'resting place'. Do I need an exact date for a check of this cemetery, please? Cheers. Pam cliveden@acenet.net.au Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hello Philip I have an Elizabeth Collins b. 1825 m. Cornelius Abraham b. 1824--19 April, 1846 St. Mary's Portsea. Hope this helps Keith Victoria Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <EWRAYSURE@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:38 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Collins, Taw, Proctor families in Old Portsmouth > Does anyone have an interest in the families noted above > in the nineteenth century, please > > Philip > > > ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Rita looks like you are out of luck this time there is a gap in the baptism fiche from 185 to Aug 1863. Linda and Tony Could you please look up a baptism at Holy Trinity Gosport 25 Jan 1863, for Martha BOWERS Thanks Rita

Hi Linda & Tony Could you look up a baptism about February/March 1888 for Hilda Elizabeth Hines, she was buried on 6th August 1888, aged 6 months, trying to find out who her parents were. Thanks Rita

Thanks Linda and Tony for stories from "A History of The Hampshire & Isle of Wight Constabulary". Of course, you will not find any of my good people in there! Edna ~ (;-))ttawa ---- More from "A History of The Hampshire & Isle of Wight Constabulary 1839-1966" Aldershot 1906 - Sergeant Eades and Constable Pope were highly commended for their "praiseworthy perseverance" in tracing a horse, cart and harness stolen from Aldershot. The officers continued their enquiries on bicycles for several days "finally arresting the thieves and recovering the stolen property at Birmingham" Meonstoke - June 1899 - First Class Constable Jennings was "commended for his prompt action in a case of larceny. He had traced the 2 men responsible on his bicycle and arrested them at Guildford with the stolen property in their posession" Broughton (year not stated but in 1865-1890 section) - Constable Meacham "who had brought discredit on the Force by joining in a party given by dishonest servants in their employers house at Broughton. This sordid carouse had not broken up until 4am. Far from protecting poperty, more especially in the absence of the owner, Meacham had assisted in misusing it. He was dismissed the service and in addition, fined a weeks pay"

England is 9 hours behind Australia, 9am in England is 7pm in Australia, there is 11 hours difference once we both switch to daylight saving. Patricia, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Knightroots@aol.com To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 2:55 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] time differences - off topic but need some help Can anyone tell me the time difference between Tasmania Australia and England please at present? Thanks Linda and Tony ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hello Pam an approx year in up to a 5 year slot would be ok Anns Hill cemetery didn't start until 1855 but possibly Forton St John could be the place otherwise and the burials we have for there are 1841-79. A lot depends on where they were living when they died as could be Elson St Thomas,Holy Trinity church Gosport,Alverstoke church all pre 1855 (as well as Forton St John). Of course they may have moved around and been living in Portsea.... Will leave you to ponder....Linda and Tony Hello Linda and Tony Many thanks for the URLs you sent. I'll check them out. One reply told me that Forton became a Parish in its own right in 1841, so it is possible that my 'lost' Alverstoke rellies who were on the 1841 Census were buried from there. From reading the replies, it seems that Ann's Hill cemetery could be a possible 'resting place'. Do I need an exact date for a check of this cemetery, please? Cheers. Pam

Just in case there is still any lingering confusion over my original message, here it is again. I am interested in the BRAMBLE family of Portsea in Hampshire, particularly Benjamin BRAMBLE who married Mary Ann ROSS around 1810. As one of my RÖHSS family had the middle name BRAMBLE, I wondered if Mary Ann was really of the RÖHSS family. Any takers? Meg, W. Sussex -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 19/08/2005

we have just come across batch no C091301 in Dorset but it refers to Forton by Alverstoke baptists. Ignore the warning about the fact it could refer to several locations or something like that and just click ok. You might just find some of your missing rellies amongst the 144 people located there. Good luck anyway,Linda and Tony

We recently purchased a second hand copy of "A History of The Hampshire & Isle of Wight Constabulary 1839-1966" It is not indexed by name and so we cannot do look ups - however, some of the incidents may be of interest to listers. January 1879 - Gosport - Sgt Gibson was reprimanded for not investigating a complaint of drunken brawling in a pub "but through idleness sent only a 3rd class constable to clear the tavern and manage two drunken men on his own" October 1880 - Ventnor - Sgt Lowe was admonished to display more zeal and activity in the discharge of his duty. A gipsy encampmment on New Down, Ventnor had to be removed and the sergeant " in place of dealing with this difficult and troublesome duty himself merely sent a 2nd class constable thus avoiding a very unpleasant duty on a very wet morning"

Dear List, Thank you to everyone who sent suggestions. I am very grateful and will investigate them all. Thank you again, Margaret Jessup.

Hello Listers I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent establishment? Many thanks. Pam cliveden@acenet.net.au Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia