Hi David, Unfortunately he was in Ireland in 1881 so there is no census for him and in 1901 he was no longer in the army and was living in Manchester. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Parker Sent: 22 November 2006 18:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fort Brockhurst Fort Brockhurst was indeed the Army Discharge Depot until 1914. A Military Staff Clerk is one who is usually working at a headqurters or depot rather than with a regiment. He was often quite senior, a sergeant or a Warrant Officer. Usually a census quotes the rank of regular soldiers, and if you search you can often find his regiment, although chances are that most of the officers at least were seconded from their regiments. Have you serached the 1881 and 1901 censuses? Chances are that he would have still been serving at the time of one of these. davbid ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark ware" <[email protected]> To: "Portsmouth Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fort Brockhurst > Hi All, > > > > Can anybody help me with some information about Fort Brockhurst & Fort > Elson? I have a George Thomas ROOK living on the base in 1891 with his > whole > family and he is listed as a Military Staff Clerk of the Discharge Depot. > Am > I right in assuming that the Discharge depot was responsible for all the > discharges for the Army and would he have been a civilian or a soldier > that > had been appointed to clerical duties? > > > > Many thanks > > Mark > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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How my name was changed from David to "davbid" I do not know

Fort Brockhurst was indeed the Army Discharge Depot until 1914. A Military Staff Clerk is one who is usually working at a headqurters or depot rather than with a regiment. He was often quite senior, a sergeant or a Warrant Officer. Usually a census quotes the rank of regular soldiers, and if you search you can often find his regiment, although chances are that most of the officers at least were seconded from their regiments. Have you serached the 1881 and 1901 censuses? Chances are that he would have still been serving at the time of one of these. davbid ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark ware" <[email protected]> To: "Portsmouth Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fort Brockhurst > Hi All, > > > > Can anybody help me with some information about Fort Brockhurst & Fort > Elson? I have a George Thomas ROOK living on the base in 1891 with his > whole > family and he is listed as a Military Staff Clerk of the Discharge Depot. > Am > I right in assuming that the Discharge depot was responsible for all the > discharges for the Army and would he have been a civilian or a soldier > that > had been appointed to clerical duties? > > > > Many thanks > > Mark > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi All, Can anybody help me with some information about Fort Brockhurst & Fort Elson? I have a George Thomas ROOK living on the base in 1891 with his whole family and he is listed as a Military Staff Clerk of the Discharge Depot. Am I right in assuming that the Discharge depot was responsible for all the discharges for the Army and would he have been a civilian or a soldier that had been appointed to clerical duties? Many thanks Mark

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Bob it's from the Free BMD index, no such info as birthplace etc, you'd have to actually get the certificate to see what info is on there.......birthplace still won't be though. Just to throw a spanner in the works, there's also a John Gallienne born 1863 at Guernsey on one of the Channel Island censuses, but you seem to have found your John with his grandmother in mainland UK on that census. Any way of you finding your John's birth details at Guernsey? All the best for now, Jon

In a message dated 21/11/2006 01:39:25 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Gallienne Theres a Walter J Gallienne born 1863 living with his family in Woolwich on the 1881 Census ... This is probly the one John found.

Hi Jon could well be is there any place of birth Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nixey" <[email protected]> To: "Rootsweb Portsmouth Gosport" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] John Gallienne > Bob, > > It's a long-shot but there's a death index of a Walter John Gallienne at > Woolwich, Kent, June qtr 1882, approx year of birth 1863. Any chance he > could have been born Walter John but just used John like so many people > did/do, and joined the forces which took him to that neck of the woods? > > cheers, Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Bob, It's a long-shot but there's a death index of a Walter John Gallienne at Woolwich, Kent, June qtr 1882, approx year of birth 1863. Any chance he could have been born Walter John but just used John like so many people did/do, and joined the forces which took him to that neck of the woods? cheers, Jon

I am trying to trace a missing relative John GALLIENNE b Abt 1862 Guernsey Channel Islands according to the 1871 Census where he was living with his Grandmother Mary BURGESS nee RILEY and his sister Ellen Mary b 6 Apr 1864 in Alverstoke Gosport. Ellen Mary was classed as an Idiot from birth and also suffered Epilepsy (probably why she was called an idiot) from the age of 4 probably the reason she was living with her grandmother as her parents at that time had twins to support and would not be able to cope with her as well. Why John was living there I don't know, was he helping to look after his sister. In 1872 their grandmother Mary died and by the 1881 Census Ellen Mary was in the Alverstoke House of Industry and John was nowhere to be found on any census so far. Being that he would have been only ten years old why did he not go and live with his parents, did he die, did he go into the House of Industry with his sister, did he join the navy and follow his father? I have found no evidence of any of this as yet. Quite a Mystery anyone want to try and solve it. Bob

Have all of Thomas Henry now thanks Jon, I thought I had lost them all but as I said have found my backup 1891 was RG12/878 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nixey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Thomas Henry GALLIENNE lookup 1861 > And found in 1901 but not 1891 so far. > > 1901 census, Alverstoke > Thomas H Galienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands, Head > Ellen Galienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, Wife > Ellent Gallienne abt 1894 Gosport, Hampshire, Granddaughter > Agnes M Whall abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, Daughter > Bessie A Whall abt 1900 Gosport, Hampshire, Granddaughter > David Cooper abt 1849 Portsmouth, Hampshire, Boarder > Clara Flemings abt 1887 Portsmouth, Hampshire, Nurse > > A couple of the Gallienne boys were in Gillingham, Kent by this census. > > Regards, Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi Jon Have just found them on an old backup disc I had. They are in Gosport so that tells me they were there then, shame I was hoping to get some idea about their son John GALLIENNE b 1862 Guernsey. I presume that it is their son as he was living with Thomas and Ellen's daughter Ellen Mary at their Grandmothers house in the 1871 listed as grandson and granddaughter unless he was the son of another GALLIENNE. There is nothing after the 1871 about this John. Ellen Mary was and Idiot Epileptic and later after years in the alverstoke house in Industry admitted to Knowle Hospital where she died at the age of 18. Now when the Grandmother died in 1872 did they both go into the workhouse as their parents at this time had twins to support. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nixey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Thomas Henry GALLIENNE lookup 1861 > Hi Bob, > > Found them in 1871 and 1881. Regards, Jon. > > 1871 census, Alverstoke > Thomas H Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head > Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife > Charles J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son > William J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son > > 1881 census, 4 alver Rd, Gosport > Thomas Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head, Naval Pensioner > Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife > Charles Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > William Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Thomas Gallienne abt 1872 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Francis Gallienne abt 1873 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Henry Gallienne abt 1876 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Agnes Gallienne abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Thanks John I have them I wonder if he was at sea and she went back to Guernsey as they had a son John born in Guernsey in 1862 this is what I am trying to prove. Would you have a quick look at the Channel islands for me as my Ancestry has just ran out. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nixey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Thomas Henry GALLIENNE lookup 1861 > Hi Bob, > > Found them in 1871 and 1881. Regards, Jon. > > 1871 census, Alverstoke > Thomas H Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head > Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife > Charles J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son > William J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son > > 1881 census, 4 alver Rd, Gosport > Thomas Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head, Naval Pensioner > Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife > Charles Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > William Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Thomas Gallienne abt 1872 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Francis Gallienne abt 1873 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Henry Gallienne abt 1876 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar > Agnes Gallienne abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

And found in 1901 but not 1891 so far. 1901 census, Alverstoke Thomas H Galienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands, Head Ellen Galienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, Wife Ellent Gallienne abt 1894 Gosport, Hampshire, Granddaughter Agnes M Whall abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, Daughter Bessie A Whall abt 1900 Gosport, Hampshire, Granddaughter David Cooper abt 1849 Portsmouth, Hampshire, Boarder Clara Flemings abt 1887 Portsmouth, Hampshire, Nurse A couple of the Gallienne boys were in Gillingham, Kent by this census. Regards, Jon

wrote >Could SKS have a look to see if there is a Census report in Alverstoke for >Thomas Henry GALLIENNE b 1835 Guernsey or probably his wife Ellen GALLIENNE >b 1839 Drypool Yorkshire > George Dobbs abt 1842 Clerkenwell, London, England Visitor Alverstoke Hampshire Ellen Gallione Thomas H abt 1840 Hull, Yorkshire, England Wife Alverstoke Hampshire Thomas H Gallione Ellen abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head Alverstoke Hampshire Thomas is a Ship Carpenter and George a Seaman RN. Do you want the image? -- Jenny M Benson

Hi Bob, Found them in 1871 and 1881. Regards, Jon. 1871 census, Alverstoke Thomas H Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife Charles J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son William J Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son 1881 census, 4 alver Rd, Gosport Thomas Gallienne abt 1835 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head, Naval Pensioner Ellen Gallienne abt 1840 Drypool, Yorkshire, England Wife Charles Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar William Gallienne abt 1870 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar Thomas Gallienne abt 1872 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar Francis Gallienne abt 1873 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar Henry Gallienne abt 1876 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son, Scholar Agnes Gallienne abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter

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Could SKS have a look to see if there is a Census report in Alverstoke for Thomas Henry GALLIENNE b 1835 Guernsey or probably his wife Ellen GALLIENNE b 1839 Drypool Yorkshire Thanks Bob