Just checking this bapt. The number here, is that a birth year? / 1892/11/9 1883 St Michael & All Angels Alice Louise of George Harriett Knight 18 York Street Naval Officer, child age 9 (b. c. 1883? - one born 2nd Qtr 1883 Portsea). Where is this church located, please. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

from Edna ~ sunny Ottawa Merry Christmas & a Healthy New Year! ------------------------------------------------ The Genealogist's Psalm Genealogy is my pastime, I shall not stray; It maketh me to lie down and examine half-buried tombstones. It leadeth me into still Court Houses, it restoreth my ancestral knowledge. It leadeth me in paths of census records and ships' passenger lists for my surname's sake. Yea, though I walk through the shadows of research libraries and microfilm readers, I shall fear no discouragement; for a strong urge is within me; the curiosity and motivation they comfort me. It demandeth preparation of storage space for the acquisition of countless documents; it anointest my head with burning midnight oil, my family group sheets runneth over. Surely birth, marriage, and death dates shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of a family-history seeker for ever. --Wildamae Brestal

Hi everyone, I have a couple of new surnames of interest in the Gosport area: NORSTER: Thomas W. B. Steptoe married Ena R. Norster at Gosport in 1917, Ena was the daughter of Robert Norster and Matilda (ne Treacher). There is a possible birth index of a Thomas William B. Steptoe in 1885 in the Fulham RD, but I haven't found him on 1891 or 1901 census yet. PATERSON Edward B. Paterson married Florence K. Albery at Gosport in 1915. Does anyone have links to Norster, Paterson or Steptoe in the Gosport area please? Regards to all, Jon

Hi, That does sound logical. Thanks for helping. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Thirlwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fw: Clarence Parade - Terrace, Southsea A number of groups of houses were built in Portsmouth (and I should imagine elsewhere) as '"terraces" (my mother was born in one such). Over the years they got mostly absorbed into the main street or road they were built on, and the old terrace names mostly dropped, as more building was carried out and house numbering was rationalised. Cheers, Ian Edna wrote: > Thanks Philip, I can't see Clarence Terr. on Streetmap at all and wonder > if > it was > absorbed into Clarence Parade. > > With appreciation, > > Edna - Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Clarence Parade - Terrace, Southsea > > > According to the Portsmouth Encyclopaedia both Clarence > Parade and Clarence Terrace were built in 1861. > > Clarence Terrace is described as "four houses on the N side > of Clarence Parade East". > > Hope this helps > > Philip > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A number of groups of houses were built in Portsmouth (and I should imagine elsewhere) as '"terraces" (my mother was born in one such). Over the years they got mostly absorbed into the main street or road they were built on, and the old terrace names mostly dropped, as more building was carried out and house numbering was rationalised. Cheers, Ian Edna wrote: > Thanks Philip, I can't see Clarence Terr. on Streetmap at all and wonder if > it was > absorbed into Clarence Parade. > > With appreciation, > > Edna - Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Clarence Parade - Terrace, Southsea > > > According to the Portsmouth Encyclopaedia both Clarence > Parade and Clarence Terrace were built in 1861. > > Clarence Terrace is described as "four houses on the N side > of Clarence Parade East". > > Hope this helps > > Philip > >

Thanks Philip, I can't see Clarence Terr. on Streetmap at all and wonder if it was absorbed into Clarence Parade. With appreciation, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Clarence Parade - Terrace, Southsea According to the Portsmouth Encyclopaedia both Clarence Parade and Clarence Terrace were built in 1861. Clarence Terrace is described as "four houses on the N side of Clarence Parade East". Hope this helps Philip ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the Portsmouth Encyclopaedia both Clarence Parade and Clarence Terrace were built in 1861. Clarence Terrace is described as "four houses on the N side of Clarence Parade East". Hope this helps Philip

Hi, Was Clarence Parade once called Clarence Terrace? Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

Off topic as non family history - also, this is a chain letter. Thanks Linda & Tony List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Guildner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:55 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] A Christmas tale > Dear Listers, > > I believe this is a new peom, writtten by Austrailian defence personnel > working in a peacekeeping role overseas. > (Apologies for unintended cross-postings. Please forward it on). > > Cheers > > (Deb on behalf of) Ray in Melbourne, Australia > .................................................................................. > > A CHRISTMAS TALE > > T'was the night before Christmas, he lived all alone > in a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone, > I had come down the chimney, with presents to give, > And to see just who in this home did live. > > I looked all about, a strange sight did see: > no tinsel, no presents, not even a tree, > No stocking by mantle, just boots filled with sand. > On the wall hung pictures of far distant lands. > > With medals and badges, awards of all kinds > A sober thought came through my mind - > For this house was different, it was dark and dreary > I found the home of a soldier, once I could see clearly. > > The soldier lay sleeping, silent, alone, > Curled up on the floor in this one bedroom home. > The face was so gentle, the room in such disorder: > Not how I pictured an Austrtalian soldier. > > Was this the hero of whom I'd just read - > Curled up on a poncho, the floor for a bed? > I realised that families that I saw this night > Owed their lives to these soldiers who were willing to fight. > > Soon round the world, the children would play, > And grown-ups would celebrate a bright Christmas Day > They all enjoyed freedom, each month of the year > Because of the soldiers, like the one lying here. > > I couldn't help wonder, how many lay alone > On a cold Christmas Eve, in a land far from home? > The very thought brought a tear to my eye. > I dropped to my knees and started to cry. > > The soldier awakened, and I heard a rough voice: > "Santa, don't cry, this life is my choice > I fought for freedom. I don't ask for more. > My life is my God, my country, my corps." > > The soldier rolled over, and drifted to sleep. > I couldn't control it, I continued to weep. > I kept watch for hours, so silent and still, > And we both shivered from the cold night's chill. > > I didn't want to leave on that cold, dark night > This guardian of honour so willing to fight. > Then the soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure, > Whispered "Carry on, Santa, It's Christmas Day, all is secure." > One look at my watch, and I knew he was right. > "Merry Christmas, my friend, and to all a Good Night". > > ******************************************* > This poem was written by an Australian Peacekeeping soldier stationed > overseas. > > The following is his request. I think it is reasonable. > > PLEASE. > > Would you do me the kind favour of sending this to as many people as you > can? > > Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our all of the > Service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. > > Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. > > Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed > themselves for us. > > Please, do your small part to plant this small seed. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Please check with the admin prior to posting messages that may be off topic. You are probably in breach of your microsoft licence in circulating programme discs - even for free. Thanks Linda & Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Orange Wasps" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Windows 95 Disks > Silly me - forgot to give contact details...... > > [email protected] > > Ruth in Havant > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Silly me - forgot to give contact details...... [email protected] Ruth in Havant

Hello all I hope that the listowner won't mind this - I have a complete set of Windows 95 on disk which I am happy to donate (if they are of any use) to any local (Portsmouth, Havant, Gosport) organisation or individual interested in family history or genealogy on the understanding that they will not be sold on. Contact off list please. Ruth in Havant

Dear Listers, I believe this is a new peom, writtten by Austrailian defence personnel working in a peacekeeping role overseas. (Apologies for unintended cross-postings. Please forward it on). Cheers (Deb on behalf of) Ray in Melbourne, Australia .................................................................................. A CHRISTMAS TALE T'was the night before Christmas, he lived all alone in a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone, I had come down the chimney, with presents to give, And to see just who in this home did live. I looked all about, a strange sight did see: no tinsel, no presents, not even a tree, No stocking by mantle, just boots filled with sand. On the wall hung pictures of far distant lands. With medals and badges, awards of all kinds A sober thought came through my mind - For this house was different, it was dark and dreary I found the home of a soldier, once I could see clearly. The soldier lay sleeping, silent, alone, Curled up on the floor in this one bedroom home. The face was so gentle, the room in such disorder: Not how I pictured an Austrtalian soldier. Was this the hero of whom I'd just read - Curled up on a poncho, the floor for a bed? I realised that families that I saw this night Owed their lives to these soldiers who were willing to fight. Soon round the world, the children would play, And grown-ups would celebrate a bright Christmas Day They all enjoyed freedom, each month of the year Because of the soldiers, like the one lying here. I couldn't help wonder, how many lay alone On a cold Christmas Eve, in a land far from home? The very thought brought a tear to my eye. I dropped to my knees and started to cry. The soldier awakened, and I heard a rough voice: "Santa, don't cry, this life is my choice I fought for freedom. I don't ask for more. My life is my God, my country, my corps." The soldier rolled over, and drifted to sleep. I couldn't control it, I continued to weep. I kept watch for hours, so silent and still, And we both shivered from the cold night's chill. I didn't want to leave on that cold, dark night This guardian of honour so willing to fight. Then the soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure, Whispered "Carry on, Santa, It's Christmas Day, all is secure." One look at my watch, and I knew he was right. "Merry Christmas, my friend, and to all a Good Night". ******************************************* This poem was written by an Australian Peacekeeping soldier stationed overseas. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable. PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favour of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our all of the Service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Good news -- http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.census.uk.1911/41/mb.ashx Edna - Ottawa

Thanks so much for the suggestions you all offered. It's reassuring to know that I needn't look for match ups for spouses on preceding and following pages. Cheers, Pam Perryman Eugene, Oregon, USA

Hi all Just received a marriage cert from my Canadian cousin. Marriage at the Register Office in the District of Portsmouth. 20th January 1912, George TRIMMER, 25 years, Batchelor, Contractors Dock Labourer, 118 North End Avenue North End, Father John Trimmer, Skilled Labourer. To Flora Hines, 24 years, Spinster, 118 North End Avenue North End, father William Hines (Deceased) Herbalist. Witnesses - Alice Wilson Mary Edward and Kate Usher. But the interesting bit on the right hand side of the cert. "In entry no 53 col 2 for "George Trimmer" read William Dixon otherwise George Trimmer. Col 3 for 25 read 27, col 7 for "Trimmer" read "Dixon" and in col 8 for Skilled Labourer read Gamekeeper. Corrected 29th December 1920 by me W A Wilson Registrar in the presence of William Dixon Flora Dixon the parties married. A Statutory Declaration as to the facts having been made. It looks like George Trimmer didn't know he was actually a Dixon when he married - any other advice/connections Edna - I think we had a Flora living with Mundens at one time - is this likely to connect in? All help/advice appreciated. Rita

Hi Pam, I've been fortunate to have found the marriage needed on the IGI ( www.familysearch.org ) on times, which obviously gives you both people who married. Unfortunately, not all marriages are on there, not all parishes are on there, and not all married in churches, some married at a register office. The Hants OPC site is well worth a look ( www.knightroots.co.uk ) then click online transcriptions. Again though, it won't include marriages at reg. offices. The older marriage indexes had 8 people to a page, 4 grooms, 4 brides, then it later changed to just 2 grooms, 2 brides which made life a bit easier still when trying to track them on the next available census. Then later again, 1911 if I remember rightly, the indexes also included the surname of the appropriate bride or groom which made the matching process absolute heaven! It's also worth googling for info, as I've found info on my family that way, although true to say, not so often. You could just hit lucky though. Take good care, happy hunting, Jon

Hi Pam, There is no easy way and it is made more difficult by the fact that Free BMD is not complete. It can be slightly easier to locate the brides because by the following census Bill BLOGGS and Mary ???? might have produced children. If there is only one Mary registered at this time and place it should be a fairly accurate guess. This is no good if a Mary SMITH and Mary BROWN were married in the same quarter and carry the same Reg Reference! You simply cannot guess because you could end up wasting hours, days and years researching someone who aint yours! Mike Waterlooville

Looking for a little advice here. I'm methodically working through the various siblings of my direct ancestors. The marriage index is the most frustrating. I've found three of the sisters in one generation, but FreeBMD gives pages with names -- up to five names per page -- and I have to guess which ones are the spouses. For one sister, Maggie, there were four potential spouses, but fortunately I could find her and Alfred in the next UK census, confirming that he was the one she married. I've had no luck with the other two sisters. They don't show up as married to any of the men's names on the page in which they appear. In fact, the men don't always show up in the next census either. It occurred to me that perhaps the names on any one page didn't always match up neatly with each other, and that I should go back and look at preceding and following pages and then check those possible couples out also in the next census. Has this worked for anyone, or are the spouses always on the same pages? Since these people aren't my direct line, I'm less ready to madly buy up marriage certificates. Has anyone had any experience with this problem and found any useful tips, short of simply ordering the marriage certificate?? Pam Perryman Eugene, Oregon, USA

Many, many thanks to all of you who replied regarding the usage of the grave at Kingston Cemetery. I think I'll leave that one go for now, and if the name Dauvin crops up somewhere in the future, well I know there's already a link there. Regards to all, Jon