An excellent site ~ IOW FHS: http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/ Edna - Ottawa

I am sure that I saw a posting a while back asking about a photographers Harveys who were at 124 High Street, Gosport. Whilst going through old photos I found one taken by this firm, and it was dated 1894. Hope that helps the person who wanted to try to date the photograph? ps, glad to be back in the area after working away. ray ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

An excellent site -- http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

Have just discovered these interesting sites concerned with local history www.victoriacountyhistory.ac.uk www.englandspastforeveryone.org.uk www.british-history.ac.uk Best wishes to everyone Shirley (Cambridge)

Hi, Thought you ( British citizens ) might all like to sign the petition to get census released early instead of the 100 years, what a help that would be to our trees. There's a site with a petition to release censuses early if you're interested at:- http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/ Edna ~ snowy Ottawa

Good morning, Ernest V. MOGG married Elizabeth Anne McGREGOR 1915 Portsmouth. I think there were 2 children - Robina & Jean. Regards, Joan Colmer.

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: LITTLETON MARRIAGES 1839-1930 LITTLETON BURIALS - 1738 TO 1930 LITTLETON BAPTISMS 1736 - 1930 All of these have been transcribed and donated to the Hampshire OPC project by Fred W Montague - much appreciated. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright) or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

Linda & Tony wrote >Hello Jenny have just re checked the fiche for the burial and the name >is definitely and clearly Joseph and the age15 months.This was in the >Alverstoke fiche. The following took place at Holy Trinity church >Gosport CHU23/1B/1 page 224 no 1789 christened Feb 13 1835 John son of >William and Lucy PAUL born 10 Nov 1834 Gosport father's occupation >Baker from the fiche. Hope you don't mind us checking Jan wanted to see >if we had mad an error but >seems ok this time. Many thanks for that. William and Lucy are among "my lot" - William being my 1st cousin 4x removed but I was wondering whose child Joseph was if he wasn't one and the same with John. It definitely looks as though the LDS patron who submitted the Birth/Christening/Death record to the IGI mixed up the two children. Yet another example of why patron submissions should always be treated with the utmost caution! -- Jenny M Benson

Jenny, Just another thought, on the burial records for Anns Hill, my wife's grandfather was recorded as Edmund Henry Albray on his wife's burial record. His name was actually Edwin James Albray, so maybe Joseph was a mistake and should have been John? All the best, Jon

Hi Jenny, Just a comment, on the 1851 census my wife's great great grandfather's age was 33 but appeared to be 53. Maybe when the details were originally recorded, at a quick glance the record could have been written as 15 months by error. If 13 months was the correct age, that would match up with the birth and burial dates. Can't think of an explanation of the John / Joseph names, other than possibly his name was John when bapt but later changed to Joseph out of preference. My wife's great grandmother was born Harriet but baptised Charlotte 3 months later. Just a thought as changes of names did happen back then quite often by what I've seen. All the best, Jon

Hello Jenny have just re checked the fiche for the burial and the name is definitely and clearly Joseph and the age15 months.This was in the Alverstoke fiche. The following took place at Holy Trinity church Gosport CHU23/1B/1 page 224 no 1789 christened Feb 13 1835 John son of William and Lucy PAUL born 10 Nov 1834 Gosport father's occupation Baker from the fiche. Hope you don't mind us checking Jan wanted to see if we had mad an error but seems ok this time. Hope this helps,Linda and Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny M Benson" <[email protected]> Can anyone check the burial register, please? >I was just looking at the Gosport burials on the Knightroots site(*) and > came across the following for Alverstoke St Mary, Gosport: > > 176/1406 Joseph son of Wm PAUL Gosport Dec 27 1835 15mths > > The IGI has a *submitted* record of the birth of a JOHN Paul, son of > William Paul and Lucy West on 10 November 1834, his Christening on 13 > February 1835 and his burial on 27 Dec 1835. It also has an *extracted* > record for the Christening of the same child. > > If the birthdate is correct, he was not 15 months old when he died, but > this could be a "rounding" of his age. But there is also the name > discrepancy. I am wondering if SKS could check the burial register to > see if the name is definitely Joseph or if it could be John. > > (*) Many, many thanks to everyone involved in making this the wonderful > resource that it is. All their efforts are hugely appreciated. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi Jenny. I'll have a look on my next visit to the Record Office Jan Jenny M Benson <[email protected]> wrote: I was just looking at the Gosport burials on the Knightroots site(*) and came across the following for Alverstoke St Mary, Gosport: 176/1406 Joseph son of Wm PAUL Gosport Dec 27 1835 15mths The IGI has a *submitted* record of the birth of a JOHN Paul, son of William Paul and Lucy West on 10 November 1834, his Christening on 13 February 1835 and his burial on 27 Dec 1835. It also has an *extracted* record for the Christening of the same child. If the birthdate is correct, he was not 15 months old when he died, but this could be a "rounding" of his age. But there is also the name discrepancy. I am wondering if SKS could check the burial register to see if the name is definitely Joseph or if it could be John. (*) Many, many thanks to everyone involved in making this the wonderful resource that it is. All their efforts are hugely appreciated. -- Jenny M Benson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was just looking at the Gosport burials on the Knightroots site(*) and came across the following for Alverstoke St Mary, Gosport: 176/1406 Joseph son of Wm PAUL Gosport Dec 27 1835 15mths The IGI has a *submitted* record of the birth of a JOHN Paul, son of William Paul and Lucy West on 10 November 1834, his Christening on 13 February 1835 and his burial on 27 Dec 1835. It also has an *extracted* record for the Christening of the same child. If the birthdate is correct, he was not 15 months old when he died, but this could be a "rounding" of his age. But there is also the name discrepancy. I am wondering if SKS could check the burial register to see if the name is definitely Joseph or if it could be John. (*) Many, many thanks to everyone involved in making this the wonderful resource that it is. All their efforts are hugely appreciated. -- Jenny M Benson

Hi List In the Dorchester Gaol Registers (1782-1853) www.swgfl.org.uk/dorswet/html/teachers/Databae/gaol%20_register10a.htm there is the following entry Gosport (Hampshire) Atwell Edward the elder Male, Mariner, Date 1841, age 42 years, crime Smuggling, sentence 6 months and, Atwell Edward the younger, Mariner , Date 1841, age 13 years, crime Smuggling, sentence 6 months. A "Hines" cousin checked this entry out when she visited Dorcester Museum recently & sent me copies of the register. Their address was High Street Gosport, senior Atwell was a Widower with 4 children, younger Atwell single. The younger was discharged by order of the committee magistrates. The elder declared there was a Warrent for debt and he was turned over to the Debtor Court. The previous entry was also sentenced to 6 mths with a release date of 13 April 1842, so imprison date must be 14 October 1841. I can't find any suitable Atwells living in High St Gosport in 1841 or 1851 Censuses. We think this could be the Edward Atwell (Atwool or Atwooll) who married the widowed Sarah Hines (nee Paise) at Portsmouth in 1955. If anyone trips over any Atwells in High St Gosport about 1841 - do let me know! Rita

Hi, Had this in my file, but proved wrong. Perhaps they belong to someone out there.... Edna - Ottawa >>>> 1901 Census RG12/1102 Folio 29 Page 32 ED 11 Southampton, town: Odiham, Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints #5 Blake Lane Ellen Hellyer Head M 36 Portsmouth (was married to a Wm. James H. in 1891) Chicester) William Son 11 Midhurst, Sussex Frederick Son 10 Midhurst, Sussex Nelly Daug 6 Portsmouth

Is there a web site which gives ships movements in the details you have found. Penny Hampshire UK researching Charles Stevens Royal Navy from 1851 to 1851, a resident in Portsea ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] JOHNSON - Alverstoke 1871 census > Here are some details of his ship HMS Pearl which may be of interest. > > David > > > > Type: Corvette ; Armament 21 > Launched : 13 Sep 1855 ; Disposal date or year : 1884 > BM: 1469 tons ; Displacement: 2187 tons > Propulsion: Screw > Machinery notes: 1390 hpi 400 hp > > > Movements > > 26 Feb 1856 Naval Cadet Tinling ; at Woolwich > 23 Apr 1856, Present at Fleet Review, Spithead ; Captain Sotheby > 1860 East Indies and China > 19 Jun 1869 To Madeira. Flying Squadron, Part World Cruise, Particular > Service, 30 guns > 2 Jul 1869 Left Madeira for Bahia > 2 Aug 1869 Arrived Bahia > 4 Aug 1869 Left Bahia for Rio de Janeiro > 16 Aug 1869 Arrived Rio de Janeiro > 25 Aug 1869 Left Rio de Janeiro for Montevideo > 6 Sep 1869 Arrived Montevideo > 12 Sep 1869 Left Montevideo for Cape of Good Hope > 1 Oct 1869 Arrived Cape of Good Hope > 12 Oct 1869 Left Cape of Good Hope for Melbourne > 20 Nov 1869 Arrived Melbourne > 7 Dec 1869 Left Melbourne for Sydney > 12 Dec 1869 Arrived Sydney > 26 Dec 1869 Left Sydney for Hobart Town > 2 Jan 1870 Arrived Hobart Town > 10 Jan 1870 Left Hobart Town for Lyttleton > 19 Jan 1870 Arrived Lyttleton > 22 Jan 1870 Left Lyttleton for Wellington > 24 Jan 1870 Arrived Wellington > 27 Jan 1870 Left Wellington for Auckland > 2 Feb 1870 Arrived Auckland > 9 Feb 1870 Left Auckland for Yokohama > 6 Apr 1870 Arrived Yokohama > 1879 Portsmouth > > > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Wendy wrote >I think that probably Frederick must have been married twice, he is >quite a bit older than Emma, and maybe his first child, Ann, on the >1871 census was a product of his first marriage, and then he had >another family with Emma after they married in 1863. I had been >looking for their marriage much earlier (around 1857)because Ann was 14 >in 1871. Maybe Frederick was still in Berkshire in 1851. I did wonder about a previous marriage, but I hadn't actually taken in the date of the marriage to Emma, which would have told me it must have been so. Have now found Emma Pink inn the 1861. (Image on its way.) Ann was said to be born in Alverstoke so I would image Frederick was living there at the time, but I have just this moment found him, I think, on board a ship - which would tally with him being described later on as a "Pensioner." Name: Fredk Johnson Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Guanis Mate (Mate) Gender: Male Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Hong Kong County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Royal Navy Sub-registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Pearl Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4434; Folio: 52; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543282. -- Jenny M Benson

Hi Jenny, You may be interesting in knowing the National Archives hold several records - diaries, sketches, logs - from HMS Pearl David

Here are some details of his ship HMS Pearl which may be of interest. David Type: Corvette ; Armament 21 Launched : 13 Sep 1855 ; Disposal date or year : 1884 BM: 1469 tons ; Displacement: 2187 tons Propulsion: Screw Machinery notes: 1390 hpi 400 hp Movements 26 Feb 1856 Naval Cadet Tinling ; at Woolwich 23 Apr 1856, Present at Fleet Review, Spithead ; Captain Sotheby 1860 East Indies and China 19 Jun 1869 To Madeira. Flying Squadron, Part World Cruise, Particular Service, 30 guns 2 Jul 1869 Left Madeira for Bahia 2 Aug 1869 Arrived Bahia 4 Aug 1869 Left Bahia for Rio de Janeiro 16 Aug 1869 Arrived Rio de Janeiro 25 Aug 1869 Left Rio de Janeiro for Montevideo 6 Sep 1869 Arrived Montevideo 12 Sep 1869 Left Montevideo for Cape of Good Hope 1 Oct 1869 Arrived Cape of Good Hope 12 Oct 1869 Left Cape of Good Hope for Melbourne 20 Nov 1869 Arrived Melbourne 7 Dec 1869 Left Melbourne for Sydney 12 Dec 1869 Arrived Sydney 26 Dec 1869 Left Sydney for Hobart Town 2 Jan 1870 Arrived Hobart Town 10 Jan 1870 Left Hobart Town for Lyttleton 19 Jan 1870 Arrived Lyttleton 22 Jan 1870 Left Lyttleton for Wellington 24 Jan 1870 Arrived Wellington 27 Jan 1870 Left Wellington for Auckland 2 Feb 1870 Arrived Auckland 9 Feb 1870 Left Auckland for Yokohama 6 Apr 1870 Arrived Yokohama 1879 Portsmouth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just recently come across another reason to change or add a surname. Burke's Landed Gentry 1899 edition (on Google Books) mentions the following (not Portsmouth area) name change: "Mr. H. H. PHILLIPS-CONN is the 2nd son of the late Major Michael PHILLIPS, J.P. of Glenview, co. Cavan (see that family), by Mary Anne his wife, and dau. of the late Highgate TENCH, of Ballybealy House, co. Wexford, Heir to the Mount Ida estates in 1893, on the death of his uncle by marriage, the late John Lambly CONN, and, in accordance with his will, assumed by Royal License 4 July, 1894, the additional surname of CONN." "Mr. CONN devised his estates to his wife's nephew, Highgate Henry PHILLIPS, who has assumed by Royal License the additional name and arms of CONN." So the reason for the Royal License was to assume the arms of CONN (which are described heraldically in the same article.) When you see a hyphenated surname, this may involve some paperwork, or it may not, depending on the purpose of the name change. HTH Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.