Hi Listers, This is a correction. I forgot to put the names of my ancestors in the subject heading. > Has anyone used the CLIP(Crew List Index Project)database? The authors > describe > it as a "fully searchable database with more than 270,000 records. The > data has > been sorted into the records matching particular vessels". Also, has anyone > used the Navy List 1866 CD? Both are available from the website below: > http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/nameindex/productinfo.php?id=25 > > I am still searching for two seamen in my family: > William Lemmon (Lemon), born about 1834, with a father Thomas Lemon. He > married > in 1859 and was given as a seaman in the merchant service on the birth > certificate of his son, born in 1865. His wife is a widow as of the 1871 > census. > > John Little, born abt 1835 in Bristol, Somerset, England, living as > of 1861 in > Canton River China, Vessels, Royal Navy, England (the Weazel). He is a petty > officer in the Royal Navy as of 1868. He died about 1879. > > At some point, I would love to go to the National Archives and track > these two > down, but in the meantime, am wondering about the above two resources. > > Thanks for any help! > > Lynne in grey and snowy Halifax. > > > > Quoting Margaret <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Jan, this site may help a little >> Regards from Margaret >> http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk:80/server/show/nav.3761 >> >>

lets have a look jan. mike waterlooville

I've got a photo of a sailor and his lady friend and wondered whether any Royal Navy expert would be able to help me to date the photo from the uniform. Thanks

An interesting site ~ http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/nav.005002006001002 Edna - Ottawa

Hi listers Has anyone used the CLIP(Crew List Index Project)database? The authors describe it as a "fully searchable database with more than 270,000 records. The data has been sorted into the records matching particular vessels". Also, has anyone used the Navy List 1866 CD? Both are available from the website below: http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/nameindex/productinfo.php?id=25 I am still searching for two seamen in my family: William Lemmon (Lemon), born about 1834, with a father Thomas Lemon. He married in 1859 and was given as a seaman in the merchant service on the birth certificate of his son, born in 1865. His wife is a widow as of the 1871 census. John Little, born abt 1835 in Bristol, Somerset, England, living as of 1861 in Canton River China, Vessels, Royal Navy, England (the Weazel). He is a petty officer in the Royal Navy as of 1868. He died about 1879. At some point, I would love to go to the National Archives and track these two down, but in the meantime, am wondering about the above two resources. Thanks for any help! Lynne in grey and snowy Halifax. Quoting Margaret <[email protected]>: > Hi Jan, this site may help a little > Regards from Margaret > http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk:80/server/show/nav.3761 > >

This info was given for my great-grandfather: >From "The Mercantile Navy List " for 1857: John Charles Worth (1830-1897) passed his Master Mariner's Certificate of Competency as 1st Mate in 1854 at Bristol. Certificate No. 7097. As yet I have not proceeded any further. For RN records, you will need information from Kew nr. London. Cheers, Edna - sunny Ottawa --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "lynne robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] royal navy uniform Hi listers Has anyone used the CLIP(Crew List Index Project)database? The authors describe it as a "fully searchable database with more than 270,000 records. The data has been sorted into the records matching particular vessels". Also, has anyone used the Navy List 1866 CD? Both are available from the website below: http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/nameindex/productinfo.php?id=25 I am still searching for two seamen in my family: William Lemmon (Lemon), born about 1834, with a father Thomas Lemon. He married in 1859 and was given as a seaman in the merchant service on the birth certificate of his son, born in 1865. His wife is a widow as of the 1871 census. John Little, born abt 1835 in Bristol, Somerset, England, living as of 1861 in Canton River China, Vessels, Royal Navy, England (the Weazel). He is a petty officer in the Royal Navy as of 1868. He died about 1879. At some point, I would love to go to the National Archives and track these two down, but in the meantime, am wondering about the above two resources. Thanks for any help! Lynne in grey and snowy Halifax. Quoting Margaret <[email protected]>: > Hi Jan, this site may help a little > Regards from Margaret > http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk:80/server/show/nav.3761 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jon RG12/854/103/13 The census image is quite faint, could be living either in The Lodge Stamshaw House or Stamshaw Rd Family were transcribed as Rathwell All the names & ages that you have are correct William 40 Stoker RN born Peterboro Northamptonshire Charlotte 36 wife born Portsmouth William J 13 Errand boy born Portsmouth John T 12 Errand boy born Newcastle on Tyne James 10 born Clonmel Ire George 8 born Clonmel Ire Caleb 6 born Portsmouth Sarah 4 born Portsmouth William was a Stoker on The Victoria & Albert he has been enumerated as not being onboard and is not to be abstracted. More info in case you have not got it William Caleb Waterfield Rathmell born Mar qtr 1851 Peterboro 15/386 William died Jun qtr Alverstoke 2b/346 (49yo) HTH Brian Perth WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonnixey.fh" <[email protected]> To: "Rootsweb Portsmouth Gosport" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] William and Charlotte RATHMELL, Portsea 1891 > Hi folks, > > I finally found the Rathmell family I thought were missing in 1891. I even > searched for Caleb as I thought it was an unusual name but still nothing > showed up. You can see why below. did a first name search on Charlotte the > mum and voila! Could someone with a pair of working peepers please let me > know the additional info on the household below please? Such as > occupations, address etc. Many thanks in advance, > Kindest regards to all, > Jon > > about Charlotte Kathmell > Name:Charlotte Kathmell > Age:36 > Estimated birth year:abt 1855 > Relation:Wife > Spouse's name:William > Gender:Female > Where born:Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Civil parish:Portsea > Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark > County/Island:Hampshire > Country:England > Registration district:Portsea Island > Sub-registration district:Kingston > ED, institution, or vessel:13 > Household Members:NameAge > Cabeb Kathmell6 > Charlotte Kathmell36 > George Kathmell8 > James Kathmell10 > John I Kathmell12 > Sarah Kathmell4 > William Kathmell40 > William J Kathmell13 > Edward Sparks29 > Richard Wilkins23 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi Mike, Yes I know there were three Victoria and Albert vessels. The one my great-grandad (George Knight 1842-1924) served on was No. II. A good friend was visiting Kew and came away with all his naval details for me. He did not keep a log as far as I know. What a lucky fellow you are to have served on the Royal Yacht Britannia. We would love to read your story. Cheers, Edna - sunny Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Victoria and Albert Edna did he keep a log of his time onboard? There were three Royal Yachts called Victoria and Albert. I served in the Royal Yacht Britannia 1960 - 1963. The account of my time onboard is being written now for the benefit of my grandchildren. Mike Waterlooville ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brian, Very many thanks for your time and trouble in sending me the additional info from the image, it's really appreciated. Kind regards, Jon

Hi Ian, Thanks for that, really appreciate it. I haven't gone down that road yet but intend to. Thanks for confirming it's there. Very interesting about the different birthplace, yet I'm convinced that is him as there is basically no movement of Rathmell families in and around Portsmouth that early on that I've found yet. Many thanks once again, Jon

Edna did he keep a log of his time onboard? There were three Royal Yachts called Victoria and Albert. I served in the Royal Yacht Britannia 1960 - 1963. The account of my time onboard is being written now for the benefit of my grandchildren. Mike Waterlooville

Hi Jon, if you haven't already found it, William Rathmell's naval service record may be downloadable from the National Archives documentsonline service, if the following brief details from the search are at least a close match: William Rathmell, born 24th December 1850, Newton, Hampshire. The difference between the birthplace here and that in the census and GRO index is interesting. It is possible the naval record is wrong; this happens not infrequently. There is one sheet of service information (ships served on etc) in pdf format for £3-50. Cheers, Ian jonnixey.fh wrote: > Hi folks, > > I finally found the Rathmell family I thought were missing in 1891. I even searched for Caleb as I thought it was an unusual name but still nothing showed up. You can see why below. did a first name search on Charlotte the mum and voila! Could someone with a pair of working peepers please let me know the additional info on the household below please? Such as occupations, address etc. Many thanks in advance, > Kindest regards to all, > Jon > > about Charlotte Kathmell > Name:Charlotte Kathmell > Age:36 > Estimated birth year:abt 1855 > Relation:Wife > Spouse's name:William > Gender:Female > Where born:Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Civil parish:Portsea > Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark > County/Island:Hampshire > Country:England > Registration district:Portsea Island > Sub-registration district:Kingston > ED, institution, or vessel:13 > Household Members:NameAge > Cabeb Kathmell6 > Charlotte Kathmell36 > George Kathmell8 > James Kathmell10 > John I Kathmell12 > Sarah Kathmell4 > William Kathmell40 > William J Kathmell13 > Edward Sparks29 > Richard Wilkins23 >

Hi, A good site: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ Edna - Ottawa

Hi Jon, My Great-grandpa George Knight RN (1842-1924) was a Stoker on the Victoria and Albert II, which was Queen Victoria's favourite yacht. I can send you a picture of the yacht for your file if you like, The yacht was Queen Victoria's favourite and the boat saw service for 45 yrs (1855-1900). A good book to read "The Royal Yacht Britannia" by Brian Hoey, pub. by Patrick Stephens Ltd. Edna - sunny Ottawa

Hi Jon, My Great-grandpa George Knight RN (1842-1924) was a Stoker on the Victoria and Albert II, which was Queen Victoria's favourite yacht. I can send you a picture of the yacht for your file if you like, The yacht was Queen Victoria's favourite and the boat saw service for 45 yrs (1855-1900). A good book to read "The Royal Yacht Britannia" by Brian Hoey, pub. by Patrick Stephens Ltd. Edna - sunny Ottawa

Hi List. This is my first posting to the List and is a real flyer. My g-grandfather was Henry James HARPER, bapt. 31 March 1811, St. Dunstan's, Stepney, Middlesex. He subsequently spent 40 years in the Royal Navy, retiring eventually in Simons Town, South Africa. His parents were Richard HARPER, Ropemaker, and Sophia ...(I think her maiden name was LILLYWHITE but haven't been able to confirm it.) There is a persistent rumour that Richard and Sophia were from the Portsmouth area. Is anyone familiar with these names? Best wishes. Frank Early. South Africa.

As a ropemaker highly likely he could be from the Naval Dockyards at Portsmouth, Woolwich or Deptford. Mike Waterlooville PS Have you tried the IGI?

Hi folks, I finally found the Rathmell family I thought were missing in 1891. I even searched for Caleb as I thought it was an unusual name but still nothing showed up. You can see why below. did a first name search on Charlotte the mum and voila! Could someone with a pair of working peepers please let me know the additional info on the household below please? Such as occupations, address etc. Many thanks in advance, Kindest regards to all, Jon about Charlotte Kathmell Name:Charlotte Kathmell Age:36 Estimated birth year:abt 1855 Relation:Wife Spouse's name:William Gender:Female Where born:Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish:Portsea Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark County/Island:Hampshire Country:England Registration district:Portsea Island Sub-registration district:Kingston ED, institution, or vessel:13 Household Members:NameAge Cabeb Kathmell6 Charlotte Kathmell36 George Kathmell8 James Kathmell10 John I Kathmell12 Sarah Kathmell4 William Kathmell40 William J Kathmell13 Edward Sparks29 Richard Wilkins23

He is listed in the www.familysearch.org & Batch No. C062615 for St. Mary's Portsea. Can't find him in GRO wonder if he was born under mother's maiden name. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Christening James Huckle Could someone please look-up the following christening details? James HUCKLE/EL, 02 Nov. 1853, St. Mary's Portsea. Many thanks Sarah <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried this excellent site ... http://www.knightroots.co.uk Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Christening James Huckle Could someone please look-up the following christening details? James HUCKLE/EL, 02 Nov. 1853, St. Mary's Portsea. Many thanks Sarah <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message