Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: St Matthew, Gosport, marriages 1846 to 1930 - ENTRIES TRANSCRIBED BY KNIGHTROOTS We have also re-vamped the Gosport and Alverstoke pages so that each of the churches now appears as a separate page. This was a fairly substantial job but hope you like it - we think it's a lot clearer and entries are easier to find. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

Steve, We were corresponding a while ago and I have found information on the George Payne (b. 1796) and Caroline Barnes (b.1800) family, St. Mary's Portsea. Edna - Ottawa

Thanks for all your hard work. It looks good. Edna ~ sunny Ottawa Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: St Matthew, Gosport, marriages 1846 to 1930 - ENTRIES TRANSCRIBED BY KNIGHTROOTS We have also re-vamped the Gosport and Alverstoke pages so that each of the churches now appears as a separate page. This was a fairly substantial job but hope you like it - we think it's a lot clearer and entries are easier to find. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Evening All... I just thought you might be interested, but I recently signed the on-line E-petition which was asking the Prime Minister to "reduce the classified period for census data from 100 years to 70 years" - and this is the response I have received this evening... "Thank you for signing the e-petition calling for the closure period on census data to be reduced from its present 100 years to 70 years for the 1911, 1921 and 1931 censuses. The Government understands the frustrations this delay can cause, particularly to people who are researching their family history. But these frustrations have to be balanced against the assurances given to people at the time about confidentiality. This also has implications today, for public confidence in the privacy of information which people provide in future censuses. Clearly, the importance of the personal information provided in the census is that it enables a detailed and accurate picture to be built up of our society. This is of great assistance to Government and to the community as a whole in helping shape policies and set priorities for the future. But unless people believe that the personal data they provide - which includes details of their occupation and who is living with them - will remain confidential and secure as they have been promised, the danger is that they might feel reluctant to give sensitive information. It is for this reason that there is a policy of a 100-year delay before releasing the personal data in the census. The purpose is to minimise the risk of embarrassment both to those living and to their immediate descendants. The Government does not believe this policy should be altered or the explicit assurances given to people at the time broken. You might like to know, however, that the 1911 census was not taken under this Act. The census returns are held by the National Archives, not the Office for National Statistics. Plans are underway to set up an on-line search service of the 1911 census by 2009, although again personally sensitive material will not be released until 2011. The National Archives will also respond to certain requests for information on the 1911 census under the Freedom of Information Act. On a sadder note, the 1931 census records were destroyed by fire during the Second World War. We know this reply will disappoint many people, but hope you will understand that in the long-term, the reasons given are in the best interests of preserving the census for future generations". I'm sure some of you probably signed this petition too, and have had this response also, but for those who didn't, I guess it doesn't really add anything to what we already knew.. Cheers Alison Hargreaves, Swindon

Hello Rita Just had aquick look-see for you on the LDS site and found a Jane Ann Hines born in Gosport but Christened in Alverstoke 17/4/1842 to a Francis & Sarah Hines. Found nothing on the LDS site for Isaac though. Sorry Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Newton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Jane Ann Hines & Isaac Ainge (Scotlands People) > Probably best to be blunt about this - if anyone has credits they want to use up to view Census images of the 1871 for Scotland. Could they please contact me off list. > I have Jane Ann Hines, born Gosport, who married Isaac Ainge, living in Greenock in the 1871 Census. The ages fit - unfortunately Ancestry only gives birthplace as England & they don't have the images online... if anyone can help - please contact me. > Thanks > Rita > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Probably best to be blunt about this - if anyone has credits they want to use up to view Census images of the 1871 for Scotland. Could they please contact me off list. I have Jane Ann Hines, born Gosport, who married Isaac Ainge, living in Greenock in the 1871 Census. The ages fit - unfortunately Ancestry only gives birthplace as England & they don't have the images online... if anyone can help - please contact me. Thanks Rita

If anyone has an interest in this couple, married in Portsmouth in 1892, there is an article in the latest, April 2007, issue of Ancestors magazine that includes some discussion of Ada's background. Cheers, Ian

Hi All: I have recently subscribed to Ancestry on a monthly basis as I want to change my options now and then. Just in the last week, this has turned up a new 3rd cousin and we are busy exchanging data. I do agree that an annual subscription is out of reach for many people, and I think there ought to be a national data repository that does not charge for "our" data. However, the little data I have bought (such as four family members' Navy records) has been well worth while. I have also tried pay-per-view sites but found that in around 50% of cases they cost more than initially expected - pay for a transcript, then one page of census, then find out there's another page (or more) - 9 units instead of the expected three! So as with everything, there are pros and cons. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA. Lynne wrote: As family historians, most of us have an ethic of sharing and our research certainly works a lot better if we DO share what we have found out with each other. Should we all start posting our family histories and photos exclusively on free web sites? It is for selfish reasons as well. I want to have the best possible chance of connecting with other people interested in the same family as me and its obvious that more people have access on a free site. I simply cannot afford to keep up an annual membership in Ancestry.com myself.

[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote; "Wondering whether large public libraries be similarly affected?" According to postings on several other mail lists (by those who claim to be knowledgeable of the facts), the FHL's were given gratis access, those libraries that offer access do so under a preferential subscription rate arrangement with Ancestry. The facts and details of these arrangements are like those of our ancestors lives, sooner or later uncovered. Quite interesting, as I type this an email offer from Ancestry arrived, the subject reads "Save up to 30% on memberships................." Donald Portland, Oregon ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Wondering whether large public libraries be similarly affected? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ancestry databases at the FHL's > For those of you that use the free database access at the FHL's, you > will > be unhappy to learn that most will soon be discontinued. What follows is > a > partial quote from a posting at [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) .net > > "I heard word today that Ancestry.com is discontinuing free access to > the Ancestry.com Databases to all Family History Libraries worldwide > as of April 1, 2007. After much disbelief and many e-mails, it is > true as our local FHL director just received an e-mail message > concerning this." > > "Free access through Ancestry.com to a few databases will continue - > at this time. Complete information can be found on Everton's > Genealogical NewsLine at: <http://genealogyblog.com/date/2007/03/16/>" > > Reasons and comments from Ancestry to the above announced discontinuance > can > be read at Everton Publishers blogsite at; > > _http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal- > from-the-family-history-centers-5877_ > (http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from-the-family-history-centers-5877) > > Donald > Portland Oregon > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi Edna, I agree that its best to keep some control over our work but I also think that sharing a family history is the best way to connect with others working on the same family. I have already been in contact with two or three people who are working on various aspects of my family tree and have found complete lines of descent that give me a place to start, even if some of the info is wrong. In addition, it can be virtually impossible to track some family members without family information passed down through only one line. I'd really like to keep that accessibility but am not sure how to do that. Lynne Quoting Edna <[email protected]>: > Hi, I have always been willing to share my family history but will never > put it all on a website. > We can never be sure what that particular site will do with it. It's > better to keep some control > over the work we have done. > > Regards to all, > > Edna - Ottawa > >

Hi, I have always been willing to share my family history but will never put it all on a website. We can never be sure what that particular site will do with it. It's better to keep some control over the work we have done. Regards to all, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "lynne robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ancestry databases at Public Libraries HI all, I find this very disappointing. Of course Ancestry.com is a business and has to make money but a great many people donate their completed family histories to Ancestry, for free. Now I notice people are posting many old family photos on Ancestry. com as well. As family historians, most of us have an ethic of sharing and our research certainly works a lot better if we DO share what we have found out with each other. Should we all start posting our family histories and photos exclusively on free web sites? I personally have chosen to do this. It is for selfish reasons as well. I want to have the best possible chance of connecting with other people interested in the same family as me and its obvious that more people have access on a free site. I simply cannot afford to keep up an annual membership in Ancestry.com myself. Do people have suggestions to this dilemma other than trying to post as much as possible to free sites? Another option to write to our own government archives and request that they do more to make data which is, after all, our own property as citizens, available to us online. Virtually all of the information we want (vital stats, censuses, etc.) was created by "we the people" and should have ownership of it, within privacy limits, of course. We could all write to Ancestry.com in protest as well. Yours for a vital family history community, Lynne Quoting Deb Guildner <[email protected]>: > Wondering whether large public libraries be similarly affected? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:55 AM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ancestry databases at the FHL's > > >> For those of you that use the free database access at the FHL's, you >> will >> be unhappy to learn that most will soon be discontinued. What follows >> is >> a >> partial quote from a posting at [email protected]_ >> (mailto:[email protected]) .net >> >> "I heard word today that Ancestry.com is discontinuing free access to >> the Ancestry.com Databases to all Family History Libraries worldwide >> as of April 1, 2007. After much disbelief and many e-mails, it is >> true as our local FHL director just received an e-mail message >> concerning this." >> >> "Free access through Ancestry.com to a few databases will continue - >> at this time. Complete information can be found on Everton's >> Genealogical NewsLine at: <http://genealogyblog.com/date/2007/03/16/>" >> >> Reasons and comments from Ancestry to the above announced discontinuance >> can >> be read at Everton Publishers blogsite at; >> >> _http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal- >> from-the-family-history-centers-5877_ >> (http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from-the-family-history-centers-5877) >> >> Donald >> Portland Oregon >> >> >> >> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI all, I find this very disappointing. Of course Ancestry.com is a business and has to make money but a great many people donate their completed family histories to Ancestry, for free. Now I notice people are posting many old family photos on Ancestry. com as well. As family historians, most of us have an ethic of sharing and our research certainly works a lot better if we DO share what we have found out with each other. Should we all start posting our family histories and photos exclusively on free web sites? I personally have chosen to do this. It is for selfish reasons as well. I want to have the best possible chance of connecting with other people interested in the same family as me and its obvious that more people have access on a free site. I simply cannot afford to keep up an annual membership in Ancestry.com myself. Do people have suggestions to this dilemma other than trying to post as much as possible to free sites? Another option to write to our own government archives and request that they do more to make data which is, after all, our own property as citizens, available to us online. Virtually all of the information we want (vital stats, censuses, etc.) was created by "we the people" and should have ownership of it, within privacy limits, of course. We could all write to Ancestry.com in protest as well. Yours for a vital family history community, Lynne Quoting Deb Guildner <[email protected]>: > Wondering whether large public libraries be similarly affected? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:55 AM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ancestry databases at the FHL's > > >> For those of you that use the free database access at the FHL's, you >> will >> be unhappy to learn that most will soon be discontinued. What follows is >> a >> partial quote from a posting at [email protected]_ >> (mailto:[email protected]) .net >> >> "I heard word today that Ancestry.com is discontinuing free access to >> the Ancestry.com Databases to all Family History Libraries worldwide >> as of April 1, 2007. After much disbelief and many e-mails, it is >> true as our local FHL director just received an e-mail message >> concerning this." >> >> "Free access through Ancestry.com to a few databases will continue - >> at this time. Complete information can be found on Everton's >> Genealogical NewsLine at: <http://genealogyblog.com/date/2007/03/16/>" >> >> Reasons and comments from Ancestry to the above announced discontinuance >> can >> be read at Everton Publishers blogsite at; >> >> _http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal- >> from-the-family-history-centers-5877_ >> (http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from-the-family-history-centers-5877) >> >> Donald >> Portland Oregon >> >> >> >> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >>

Hi Edna, Couldn't resist sneaking a quick peek in the middle of the work day. This looks like a fabulous resource for those of us tracking those elusive (and they all seem to be elusive) sailors. Thanks so much for sharing all the great resources that you do. Now...just tell me how I can find a way to spend a month in the UK exploring all these goodies. Lynne Quoting Edna <[email protected]>: > > > A handy site: > > http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/c6.html > > Edna - Ottawa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

A handy site: http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/c6.html Edna - Ottawa

My family were all Bible Christians in Portsmouth. Portsmouth RO have all the original minute books for the various chapels in Portsmouth plus the Wesleyan Methodists. Including one where my several times Great Grandfather had been elected elder and signed his name! They make fascinating reading. The early birth records include the Mothers parent's names which help a lot too. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fw: Methodists > Obviously, he wasn't a full=time minister but earned his living as an > electrician. He was a local (or lay) preacher taking services on Sundays > and you could start that very early. I have the book in which my > grandfather recorded where and when he preached over a period of 60 years > and he started at 17. All that time he earned his living in other jobs. > Obviously your grandfather gave up after a while. Anyone can start or > stop when they wish. He probably found it too burdensome on top of family > life. > Best wishes > Alice Clarke > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11.28PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fw: Methodists > > > > > > >> Hi Edna >> My paternal grandfather was born in Birmingham in 1876. The >> 1901 shows him as "Lay Preacher and electrician". Although he married a >> couple of months later in a local Parish Church, I somehow doubt if he >> were a lay reader with that denomination at the age of just 25. His >> connection with the church which the 1901 revealed was a surprise to us >> all as none of the family can recall his being a church goer. On >> reflection I would have associated him with the Methodists, so thank you >> for your latest piece of information, for although he was not one who >> "died in the work", the site did give a contact who may be able to help. >> I have written to him. Thank you. >> >> By 1915 he moved to Portsmouth and was a Charge Engineer, >> Corporation Electric Light Station. I can remember in the 1940's being >> able to see the Station from the top deck of a Southdown bus. It survived >> the was but has no doubt been demolished. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> David >> I am getting a little weary of winter. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Edna" <[email protected]> >> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]>; "Ports-Gosport" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:46 PM >> Subject: [HAM] Methodists >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> SKS put this on the list, gives dates for Methodist Ministers who died >>> in >>> the work: >>> >>> http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data1/dg/methodist/ministers/minister.html >>> >>> Edna - Ottawa >>> >>> For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC >>> at >>> www.knightroots.co.uk >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Obviously, he wasn't a full=time minister but earned his living as an electrician. He was a local (or lay) preacher taking services on Sundays and you could start that very early. I have the book in which my grandfather recorded where and when he preached over a period of 60 years and he started at 17. All that time he earned his living in other jobs. Obviously your grandfather gave up after a while. Anyone can start or stop when they wish. He probably found it too burdensome on top of family life. Best wishes Alice Clarke -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11.28PM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Fw: Methodists > Hi Edna > My paternal grandfather was born in Birmingham in 1876. The > 1901 shows him as "Lay Preacher and electrician". Although he married a > couple of months later in a local Parish Church, I somehow doubt if he > were a lay reader with that denomination at the age of just 25. His > connection with the church which the 1901 revealed was a surprise to us > all as none of the family can recall his being a church goer. On > reflection I would have associated him with the Methodists, so thank you > for your latest piece of information, for although he was not one who > "died in the work", the site did give a contact who may be able to help. > I have written to him. Thank you. > > By 1915 he moved to Portsmouth and was a Charge Engineer, > Corporation Electric Light Station. I can remember in the 1940's being > able to see the Station from the top deck of a Southdown bus. It survived > the was but has no doubt been demolished. > > Thanks again. > > David > I am getting a little weary of winter. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edna" <[email protected]> > To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]>; "Ports-Gosport" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:46 PM > Subject: [HAM] Methodists > > >> Hi, >> >> >> SKS put this on the list, gives dates for Methodist Ministers who died >> in >> the work: >> >> http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data1/dg/methodist/ministers/minister.html >> >> Edna - Ottawa >> >> For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at >> www.knightroots.co.uk >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: New Alresford Baptisms 1774 to 1812 transcribed by Jean & Bryce Goodworth Clatford Marriages 1813 - 1930 transcribed by Diz Swift Portsea St Georges - Marriages 1876-1904 transcribed by Knightroots Fordingbridge Marriages 1845 - 1852 transcribed by Liz Lane You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

> Hi Edna > My paternal grandfather was born in Birmingham in 1876. The > 1901 shows him as "Lay Preacher and electrician". Although he married a > couple of months later in a local Parish Church, I somehow doubt if he > were a lay reader with that denomination at the age of just 25. His > connection with the church which the 1901 revealed was a surprise to us > all as none of the family can recall his being a church goer. On > reflection I would have associated him with the Methodists, so thank you > for your latest piece of information, for although he was not one who > "died in the work", the site did give a contact who may be able to help. > I have written to him. Thank you. > > By 1915 he moved to Portsmouth and was a Charge Engineer, > Corporation Electric Light Station. I can remember in the 1940's being > able to see the Station from the top deck of a Southdown bus. It survived > the was but has no doubt been demolished. > > Thanks again. > > David > I am getting a little weary of winter. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edna" <[email protected]> > To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]>; "Ports-Gosport" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:46 PM > Subject: [HAM] Methodists > > >> Hi, >> >> >> SKS put this on the list, gives dates for Methodist Ministers who died >> in >> the work: >> >> http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data1/dg/methodist/ministers/minister.html >> >> Edna - Ottawa >> >> For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at >> www.knightroots.co.uk >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For those of you that use the free database access at the FHL's, you will be unhappy to learn that most will soon be discontinued. What follows is a partial quote from a posting at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) .net "I heard word today that Ancestry.com is discontinuing free access to the Ancestry.com Databases to all Family History Libraries worldwide as of April 1, 2007. After much disbelief and many e-mails, it is true as our local FHL director just received an e-mail message concerning this." "Free access through Ancestry.com to a few databases will continue - at this time. Complete information can be found on Everton's Genealogical NewsLine at: <http://genealogyblog.com/date/2007/03/16/>" Reasons and comments from Ancestry to the above announced discontinuance can be read at Everton Publishers blogsite at; _http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal- from-the-family-history-centers-5877_ (http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from-the-family-history-centers-5877) Donald Portland Oregon ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.