You are right Ken Jenny has done nothing wrong. Linda and Tony Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ava Truro Jenny, there was nothing wrong with your response. It made a lot of sense. Regards Ken Grubb Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ava Truro Linda & Tony wrote>Hello all - ZGordo replied with an extremely abusive email Oh dear - I hope (s)he didn't think I was being intentionally rude. I was trying to be helpful: I didn't think there much chance of anyone being able to offer much assistance with as few hints to go on as (s)he had given. Jenny M Benson

No worries Jenny. Replied off list Linda & Tony -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: 04 May 2008 13:37 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ava Truro Linda & Tony wrote >Hello all - ZGordo replied with an extremely abusive email Oh dear - I hope (s)he didn't think I was being intentionally rude. I was trying to be helpful: I didn't think there much chance of anyone being able to offer much assistance with as few hints to go on as (s)he had given. -- Jenny M Benson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jenny, there was nothing wrong with your response. It made a lot of sense. Regards Ken Grubb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny M Benson" <genes@cedarbank.me.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ava Truro > Linda & Tony wrote >>Hello all - ZGordo replied with an extremely abusive email > > Oh dear - I hope (s)he didn't think I was being intentionally rude. I > was trying to be helpful: I didn't think there much chance of anyone > being able to offer much assistance with as few hints to go on as (s)he > had given. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: > 03/05/2008 11:22 >

Linda & Tony wrote >Hello all - ZGordo replied with an extremely abusive email Oh dear - I hope (s)he didn't think I was being intentionally rude. I was trying to be helpful: I didn't think there much chance of anyone being able to offer much assistance with as few hints to go on as (s)he had given. -- Jenny M Benson

Hello all - ZGordo replied with an extremely abusive email and has been unsubscribed. If anyone receives any mail from him offlist, please advise us at eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks Linda & Tony List Admin -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: 04 May 2008 10:23 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ava Truro wrote >Ava came to America a while back.She married a New Zealander.I would >like to find the Truro Family of Portsmouth.I am a decendant of Peter >Truro,who can be found on Rootsweb.com. Heavens, that's a bit vague! When was "a while back". When did she marry? What do you mean about "the Truro family of Portsmouth"? Who lived in Portsmouth and when? What do you already know about any of the family? I'm sure there are many people who would be willing to help you, but you need to be more specific about what you know and what you want to find out. -- Jenny M Benson

wrote >Ava came to America a while back.She married a New Zealander.I would >like to find the Truro Family of Portsmouth.I am a decendant of Peter >Truro,who can be found on Rootsweb.com. Heavens, that's a bit vague! When was "a while back". When did she marry? What do you mean about "the Truro family of Portsmouth"? Who lived in Portsmouth and when? What do you already know about any of the family? I'm sure there are many people who would be willing to help you, but you need to be more specific about what you know and what you want to find out. -- Jenny M Benson

Ava came to America a while back.She married a New Zealander.I would like to find the Truro Family of Portsmouth.I am a decendant of Peter Truro,who can be found on Rootsweb.com.

Hi Ken Yes thanks that would be great, my e-mail is lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com Please note its Lesley not Leslie though. Best Wishes, Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > Hello Leslie, > > I have received an excellent article on the Spithead wherries. Would you > care to let me have your e-mail address and I will send you copy off > forum. > > Regards > > Ken Grubb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > > >> Hi Ken, yes I read that, I also read quite a few other newspaper reports >> of >> certain activities concerning court actions etc. I love all that, it >> really >> brings the names you have written down to life doesn't it? I am sure I >> have >> a book about Portsmouth Watermen with photos in. I will have to have >> another look at it to see if your 'Grubb' folk are in there. Wouldn't it >> be >> great to get a photo of them. >> Regards Lesley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >> >> >>> Hello again Leslie, >>> >>> It would seem that your lot often competed against my lot! >>> >>> In August 1866 during the Royal Albert Yacht Regatta, W.Passells in the >>> 26ft. long "Duke", J.Passells in the 25 ft. long "Dispatch" and W.Grubb >>> in >>> the 34 ft. long "Robin Hood" took part in a race for sailing wherries. >>> >>> Result :- "Dispatch" came second, "Robin Hood" lost its sail and >>> "Duke" finshed unplaced. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ken Grubb >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>> >>> >>>> Hi Kenneth, you refer to The Hampshire Telegraph 19th c Newspaper >>>> articles >>>> about Watermen. I wonder do you know of a free site or link to this >>>> article? My PASSELLS family came from Portsea and Southampton and a >>>> few >>>> of >>>> them were Watermen. I would dearly love to find out if they are >>>> mentioned. >>>> Lesley Mann >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>>> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:02 PM >>>> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I recently consulted the Hampshire Telegraph of the 19thC and come >>>>> across >>>>> several references to members of my Portsea family, who were all >>>>> watermen, >>>>> taking part in various regattas held in Spithead off Southsea beach. >>>>> In >>>>> 1866, one was competing in a 34 ft. sailing wherry called "Robin Hood" >>>>> which had its mainsail carried away during the race. >>>>> >>>>> I know the following:- >>>>> >>>>> 1. rowing wherries were open boats used predominantly to carry people >>>>> and >>>>> goods across the harbour and could be propelled by one to four oars >>>>> depending on length, >>>>> >>>>> 2. sailing wherries were indigenous to the Norfolk Broads, were of >>>>> shallow >>>>> draught and had a collapsible mast to negotiate bridges. My Norfolk >>>>> informant tells me that they were not particularly seaworthy. >>>>> >>>>> 3. I know that the South Coast sailing wherries did go to sea and one >>>>> was >>>>> intercepted off the French coast and suspected of smuggling so they >>>>> were >>>>> seaworthy. I assume that they were partly or wholly decked out. >>>>> >>>>> Can anybody tell me how these south coast sailing wherries differed >>>>> from >>>>> the Norfolk kind and whether they would have been built locally?? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ken Grubb >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>> message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: >>>> 16/04/2008 17:34 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: >> 22/04/2008 15:51 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hello Leslie, I have received an excellent article on the Spithead wherries. Would you care to let me have your e-mail address and I will send you copy off forum. Regards Ken Grubb ----- Original Message ----- From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > Hi Ken, yes I read that, I also read quite a few other newspaper reports > of > certain activities concerning court actions etc. I love all that, it > really > brings the names you have written down to life doesn't it? I am sure I > have > a book about Portsmouth Watermen with photos in. I will have to have > another look at it to see if your 'Grubb' folk are in there. Wouldn't it > be > great to get a photo of them. > Regards Lesley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > > >> Hello again Leslie, >> >> It would seem that your lot often competed against my lot! >> >> In August 1866 during the Royal Albert Yacht Regatta, W.Passells in the >> 26ft. long "Duke", J.Passells in the 25 ft. long "Dispatch" and W.Grubb >> in >> the 34 ft. long "Robin Hood" took part in a race for sailing wherries. >> >> Result :- "Dispatch" came second, "Robin Hood" lost its sail and >> "Duke" finshed unplaced. >> >> Regards >> >> Ken Grubb >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >> >> >>> Hi Kenneth, you refer to The Hampshire Telegraph 19th c Newspaper >>> articles >>> about Watermen. I wonder do you know of a free site or link to this >>> article? My PASSELLS family came from Portsea and Southampton and a few >>> of >>> them were Watermen. I would dearly love to find out if they are >>> mentioned. >>> Lesley Mann >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:02 PM >>> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I recently consulted the Hampshire Telegraph of the 19thC and come >>>> across >>>> several references to members of my Portsea family, who were all >>>> watermen, >>>> taking part in various regattas held in Spithead off Southsea beach. In >>>> 1866, one was competing in a 34 ft. sailing wherry called "Robin Hood" >>>> which had its mainsail carried away during the race. >>>> >>>> I know the following:- >>>> >>>> 1. rowing wherries were open boats used predominantly to carry people >>>> and >>>> goods across the harbour and could be propelled by one to four oars >>>> depending on length, >>>> >>>> 2. sailing wherries were indigenous to the Norfolk Broads, were of >>>> shallow >>>> draught and had a collapsible mast to negotiate bridges. My Norfolk >>>> informant tells me that they were not particularly seaworthy. >>>> >>>> 3. I know that the South Coast sailing wherries did go to sea and one >>>> was >>>> intercepted off the French coast and suspected of smuggling so they >>>> were >>>> seaworthy. I assume that they were partly or wholly decked out. >>>> >>>> Can anybody tell me how these south coast sailing wherries differed >>>> from >>>> the Norfolk kind and whether they would have been built locally?? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ken Grubb >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: >>> 16/04/2008 17:34 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: > 22/04/2008 15:51 > >

Hello, I am interested in the above names. Jeffrey PARFITT (PAFFETT) wed Ann PENNANT in Alverstoke in 1813. Their son, Edward, born 1824, wed Mary BISHOP (daughter of William) in Alverstoke in 1845. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Regards, Brian

I'm interested in the Sivyers. My branch came from Sussex, although my grandfather lived on Hayling for many years. There was one who was a scripture reader in the prison in Portsmouth. He died in 1873 and had a son Henry. I can't trace the Henry who married Clara in my records, but will explore it. Thanks for the lead. David Blake --- On Fri, 2/5/08, Bob Newell <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Bob Newell <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Mystery name > To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 2 May, 2008, 8:50 PM > Right on > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny M Benson" > <genes@cedarbank.me.uk> > To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Mystery name > > > > REBECCA JACOB wrote > >> The name your after is SIVYER. The birth > was registered > >>DEC1/4 1912. I have seen the name mentioned on the > list before, but > >>can't remember who by! > > > > Gosh! Just goes to show that there *are* amazing > coincidences and one > > should never make bold assumptions about what > "surely must be." > > -- > > Jenny M Benson > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with > the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - > Release Date: > > 02/05/2008 08:02 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good. Give and get cool things for free, reduce waste and help our planet. Plus find hidden Yahoo! treasure http://green.yahoo.com/uk/earth-day/

Right on Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny M Benson" <genes@cedarbank.me.uk> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Mystery name > REBECCA JACOB wrote >> The name your after is SIVYER. The birth was registered >>DEC1/4 1912. I have seen the name mentioned on the list before, but >>can't remember who by! > > Gosh! Just goes to show that there *are* amazing coincidences and one > should never make bold assumptions about what "surely must be." > -- > Jenny M Benson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release Date: > 02/05/2008 08:02 > >

REBECCA JACOB wrote > The name your after is SIVYER. The birth was registered >DEC1/4 1912. I have seen the name mentioned on the list before, but >can't remember who by! Gosh! Just goes to show that there *are* amazing coincidences and one should never make bold assumptions about what "surely must be." -- Jenny M Benson

Hello List Thanks to all the kind folk who've added to my knowledge of Portsmouth and environs. It helps to put flesh on the bones. Seamus, tell me more about your pugilistic uncle; name, age, etc. Did he fight under a ring name, like Blockbuster Brown, Mike the Mauler or some such? Did he remain in South Africa? You could pose your question on the South Africa List SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com Some very knowledgeable and helpful people on the list. Best wishes. Frank. South Africa.

Hi Bob, The name your after is SIVYER. The birth was registered DEC1/4 1912. I have seen the name mentioned on the list before, but can't remember who by! Hope this helps, Becci

Bob Newell wrote >As it is quiet I have a bit of a mystery hunt for all you sleuths. I >have a Stray birth certificate on an application for National Health >Insurance Acts 1911 to 1920 and Unemployment act 1920. There is a lot >of information on this cert but I cannot make out the surname, it looks >like George Albert Henry SUIYER b 24 Aug 1912 at 12 Warwick Street >Southsea. This application was made on 12 Nov 1930 when I presume >George Albert was living at 44 West street Southsea. George Albert's >parents were Henry Arthur SUIYER and Esther Clara Goldsmith. I have >looked and I cannot find any marriage or census on any of them, were >they immigrants? So if anyone wants to play or anyone knows this family >let me know. I will send a copy off list if anyone is interested I think it is too much of a coincidence there was a birth registration of a George A H Butler in Portsmouth in Sep Q 1912, mother's maiden name Smith! -- Jenny M Benson

As it is quiet I have a bit of a mystery hunt for all you sleuths. I have a Stray birth certificate on an application for National Health Insurance Acts 1911 to 1920 and Unemployment act 1920. There is a lot of information on this cert but I cannot make out the surname, it looks like George Albert Henry SUIYER b 24 Aug 1912 at 12 Warwick Street Southsea. This application was made on 12 Nov 1930 when I presume George Albert was living at 44 West street Southsea. George Albert's parents were Henry Arthur SUIYER and Esther Clara Goldsmith. I have looked and I cannot find any marriage or census on any of them, were they immigrants? So if anyone wants to play or anyone knows this family let me know. I will send a copy off list if anyone is interested Bob Newell

Hi James. Many thanks for your suggestion. I was member in a couple of S.A. sites in the early part of this century. I got quite a bit of help from the librarian of the Kimberley Library & Museum. I found that Uncle Jim was in the Kimberley town guard & also the Diamond fields Light Horse. I also discovered a cousin living in Jo'burg, two years younger than me. Was a Lt. Col. In S.A. army. His grandfather (Harry) was also my great uncle. Sadly, he hasn't been very forthcoming. Despite my sending him a copy of my family-tree on the Turners. Regards. Seamus....(tout á fait chevalier) System protected by system mechanics/Kaspersky -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:18 PM To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geography lesson please / South AfricaList (looking for Boxers) Seamus, I found this Rootsweb list most helpful some time ago - SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com James. ----- Original Message ----- From: Timber To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geography lesson please Hi Frank. Mike is quite right. All the names you mention are areas to the west & north of Portsmouth. All within hailing distance. The Rope walk in Portsmouth Dockyard is about fifty yards in front of the bow of HMS Victory. As where the supply & victualling store. There is a very good sight that covers the history of HM dockyard. I have a question for you. Do you know if there is a place I could get information on old South African boxers. Around the period of the 2nd Boer War ? I have a great Uncle that went to S.A in 1895 & became a well known pugilist. Regards. Seamus....(tout á fait chevalier) System protected by system mechanics/Kaspersky -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frank Lyn Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 2:01 AM To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geography lesson please Hello List I too would like to get a feel for the area where my ancestors lived and died. >From 1775 HARPERs and LILLYWHITEs keep appearing in the following places: Portsmouth Alverstoke Forton Fareham Portsea Wymering Gosport I assume these were all towns or villages in close proximity to Portsmouth. While living in these towns, Richard HARPER worked as a ropemaker and, since it was a naval district, there must have been rope-walks where rope was made. Anyone know where they were? Any ideas about on-line maps of the 18th and early 19th century Portsmouth area? Cheers. Frank. South Africa. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frank If you have any actual addresses in Forton I would be glad to go and take some photos for you. Also may be able to take some in Alverstoke. Have you tried www.old-maps.co.uk? Also www.geograph.org.uk has a good selection of modern day photographs of the UK, sorted into 1km x 1km squares. Regards from Margaret

Seamus, I found this Rootsweb list most helpful some time ago - SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com James. ----- Original Message ----- From: Timber To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geography lesson please Hi Frank. Mike is quite right. All the names you mention are areas to the west & north of Portsmouth. All within hailing distance. The Rope walk in Portsmouth Dockyard is about fifty yards in front of the bow of HMS Victory. As where the supply & victualling store. There is a very good sight that covers the history of HM dockyard. I have a question for you. Do you know if there is a place I could get information on old South African boxers. Around the period of the 2nd Boer War ? I have a great Uncle that went to S.A in 1895 & became a well known pugilist. Regards. Seamus....(tout á fait chevalier) System protected by system mechanics/Kaspersky -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frank Lyn Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 2:01 AM To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geography lesson please Hello List I too would like to get a feel for the area where my ancestors lived and died. >From 1775 HARPERs and LILLYWHITEs keep appearing in the following places: Portsmouth Alverstoke Forton Fareham Portsea Wymering Gosport I assume these were all towns or villages in close proximity to Portsmouth. While living in these towns, Richard HARPER worked as a ropemaker and, since it was a naval district, there must have been rope-walks where rope was made. Anyone know where they were? Any ideas about on-line maps of the 18th and early 19th century Portsmouth area? Cheers. Frank. South Africa. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message