Hi Edna, It's amazing! I found the very site you mentioned only about an hour before your email arrived and thought I'd seen everything on that site. I must admit, when I got your email, I thought, "well, I'll have another look but I don't think there's anything there". Within a couple of clicks there was the very information I was looking for - it was so easy that I have no idea how I missed it the first time. Thanks very, very much for your help! John -----Original Message----- From: liverpud [mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com] Sent: 12 May 2008 15:33 To: john.newport1@ntlworld.com Cc: Ports-Gosport Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial Just Search and voila! http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co.uk/southsea/naval.htm Edna - Ottawa

Thanks Linda and Tony, I live along the coast, about an hour's drive (perhaps less) via the M27, from Portsmouth so it's not difficult at all. When I go to Portsmouth, I always park in Southsea and walk into Portsmouth but I shan't be able to make the journey for some many weeks ahead and, I admit, I was impatient to know what the memorial says! Sorry, I'm not lazy, just impatient! John -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda & Tony Sent: 12 May 2008 15:17 To: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial See you are in the UK. If you are in Hampshire or a nearby locality you could always take a drive it is a lovely week and so enjoyable checking yourself. Linda and Tony

See you are in the UK. If you are in Hampshire or a nearby locality you could always take a drive it is a lovely week and so enjoyable checking yourself. Linda and Tony -----Original Message----- From: eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Newport Sent: 12 May 2008 15:08 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial I'm researching a man, from East Sussex, who was killed in WW1 and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission's website gives the following information. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL - Grave/Memorial Reference: 8. His name was Isaac John Miller and he was on board HMS Viknor when it sank on 13th January 1915. I would appreciate it if some kind soul could let me know exactly what it does say on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial although I suspect nothing more than his name. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm researching a man, from East Sussex, who was killed in WW1 and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission's website gives the following information. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL - Grave/Memorial Reference: 8. His name was Isaac John Miller and he was on board HMS Viknor when it sank on 13th January 1915. I would appreciate it if some kind soul could let me know exactly what it does say on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial although I suspect nothing more than his name. John

May we please remind everyone that messages that are not in plain text or have animations etc on do not get through to the list as they are seen them as spam. Please send messages in plain text as there have been a number of messages attempting to be posted in more recent weeks in this way. Thanks Linda and Tony

Always my pleasure. The best to you, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Newport" <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> To: "'liverpud'" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> Cc: "'Ports-Gosport'" <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial Hi Edna, It's amazing! I found the very site you mentioned only about an hour before your email arrived and thought I'd seen everything on that site. I must admit, when I got your email, I thought, "well, I'll have another look but I don't think there's anything there". Within a couple of clicks there was the very information I was looking for - it was so easy that I have no idea how I missed it the first time. Thanks very, very much for your help! John -----Original Message----- From: liverpud [mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com] Sent: 12 May 2008 15:33 To: john.newport1@ntlworld.com Cc: Ports-Gosport Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial Just Search and voila! http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co.uk/southsea/naval.htm Edna - Ottawa

Just Search and voila! http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co.uk/southsea/naval.htm Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Newport" <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Portsmouth Naval Memorial I'm researching a man, from East Sussex, who was killed in WW1 and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission's website gives the following information. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL - Grave/Memorial Reference: 8. His name was Isaac John Miller and he was on board HMS Viknor when it sank on 13th January 1915. I would appreciate it if some kind soul could let me know exactly what it does say on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial although I suspect nothing more than his name. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A handy site: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/ Edna - Ottawa

Hi, Found this interesting site about Britain's counties.... http://www.abcounties.co.uk/ Edna - Ottawa

In answer to my recent enquiry I received the following reply from the RHR Museum, can anyone on the list advise as to where I could find more information on the Royal Artillery. My original post is below the reply in this mail, Carole. ----- Original Message ----- From: RHR Museum To: 'Carole Cumber' Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: RE: Research YELF. Dear Ms Cumber, Thank you for your enquiry. The answer to your query in fact lies in your question! The Hampshire Regiment was an infantry regiment, whereas the Royal Artillery is an artillery regiment. If the information you have states that he belonged to the Royal Artillery, it is very unlikely that he transferred to the Hampshire Regiment before he died at the young age of 19. I hope this is of help to you. Best wishes, Jenni Allcock, BA(Hons) RHR Assistant Curator -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carole Cumber [mailto:dcumber@cogeco.ca] Sent: 29 April 2008 15:24 To: enquires@RoyalHampshireRegimentMuseum.co.uk Subject: Research YELF. Dear Sir/Madam, I have for several years researched my ancestors the YELF family. In a recent search I came across the death of Robert YELF age 19 years Gunner with the Royal Artillery who died on the 23rd of June 1886 at Hilsea? Hospital,Cosham and was certified by J.S.Mac.Adam.M.D. also present at the death H.Dixon. The death was registered at Fareham,County of Southampton 23/6/1886. His parents are Robert and Catherine YELF of Southampton. How would I find out if Robert YELF was a member of the Royal Hampshire regiment at the time of his death and if not which regiment could he possibly have been with? Any help gratefully accepted, Carole Cumber, Burlington,Ontario,Canada. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM

Rita Newton wrote >I'm asking this as watching the London City Salute with Princes William >& Harry on BBC2. Royal Marines Bands, HMS Collingwood mentioned amongst >other Hampshire things. I've just watched it too, and wept at the Posthorn Gallop as I always do. -- Jenny M Benson

I'm asking this as watching the London City Salute with Princes William & Harry on BBC2. Royal Marines Bands, HMS Collingwood mentioned amongst other Hampshire things. Rita

liverpud wrote >Hi, Thanks for those have come to the conclusion this one is not mine. >Mine is George Hellyer (b. 1794) Portsea and a Victualler on Beach St. >Gosport. So we can scrap this one at Mile End. George's wife was >the Ann Amelia who was always >fighting >(newspaper info). Do you have the 1851 Census entry for George and Ann Amelia or would you like me to send it to you? -- Jenny M Benson

Hi Jenny, Thank you someone has just sent me it. Therefore, George Hellyer (b. 1794) Portsea is mine and not the one who d. in 1858. All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny M Benson" <genes@cedarbank.me.uk> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Geo. Hellyer d. 1858 liverpud wrote >Hi, Thanks for those have come to the conclusion this one is not mine. >Mine is George Hellyer (b. 1794) Portsea and a Victualler on Beach St. >Gosport. So we can scrap this one at Mile End. George's wife was >the Ann Amelia who was always >fighting >(newspaper info). Do you have the 1851 Census entry for George and Ann Amelia or would you like me to send it to you? -- Jenny M Benson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If he had a daughter Louisa then he is in Emsworth in 1851. Ian liverpud wrote: > Hi, Can anyone see him on the 1851 Census > Mile End area of Portsmouth, please... > > Noticed a Death in > the Hampshire Telegraph of Apr 3 1858, Issue 3052 > On the 1st inst. at No. 1 Mile End Portsea after a short illness > Mr. George Hellyer late of Emsworth, age 68. > > Thank you, > > Edna - Ottawa >

Hi, Thanks for those have come to the conclusion this one is not mine. Mine is George Hellyer (b. 1794) Portsea and a Victualler on Beach St. Gosport. So we can scrap this one at Mile End. George's wife was the Ann Amelia who was always fighting (newspaper info). Thanks just wanted to make sure. Edna - Ottawa

Hi, Can anyone see him on the 1851 Census Mile End area of Portsmouth, please... Noticed a Death in the Hampshire Telegraph of Apr 3 1858, Issue 3052 On the 1st inst. at No. 1 Mile End Portsea after a short illness Mr. George Hellyer late of Emsworth, age 68. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

Hi again Ken, No I didn't get anything, just incase you have my e-mail wrong I will give it to you again. lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com hope to hear from you soon, Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > Which one was that?? I e-mailed you on Sunday with two articles attached. > Did you get it? > > Regards > > Ken > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > > >> Ken did you get my e-mail? Lesley >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >> >> >>> Hello Leslie, >>> >>> I have received an excellent article on the Spithead wherries. Would you >>> care to let me have your e-mail address and I will send you copy off >>> forum. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ken Grubb >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ken, yes I read that, I also read quite a few other newspaper >>>> reports >>>> of >>>> certain activities concerning court actions etc. I love all that, it >>>> really >>>> brings the names you have written down to life doesn't it? I am sure I >>>> have >>>> a book about Portsmouth Watermen with photos in. I will have to have >>>> another look at it to see if your 'Grubb' folk are in there. Wouldn't >>>> it >>>> be >>>> great to get a photo of them. >>>> Regards Lesley >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:27 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello again Leslie, >>>>> >>>>> It would seem that your lot often competed against my lot! >>>>> >>>>> In August 1866 during the Royal Albert Yacht Regatta, W.Passells in >>>>> the >>>>> 26ft. long "Duke", J.Passells in the 25 ft. long "Dispatch" and >>>>> W.Grubb >>>>> in >>>>> the 34 ft. long "Robin Hood" took part in a race for sailing wherries. >>>>> >>>>> Result :- "Dispatch" came second, "Robin Hood" lost its sail and >>>>> "Duke" finshed unplaced. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ken Grubb >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >>>>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Kenneth, you refer to The Hampshire Telegraph 19th c Newspaper >>>>>> articles >>>>>> about Watermen. I wonder do you know of a free site or link to this >>>>>> article? My PASSELLS family came from Portsea and Southampton and a >>>>>> few >>>>>> of >>>>>> them were Watermen. I would dearly love to find out if they are >>>>>> mentioned. >>>>>> Lesley Mann >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>>>>> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:02 PM >>>>>> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently consulted the Hampshire Telegraph of the 19thC and come >>>>>>> across >>>>>>> several references to members of my Portsea family, who were all >>>>>>> watermen, >>>>>>> taking part in various regattas held in Spithead off Southsea beach. >>>>>>> In >>>>>>> 1866, one was competing in a 34 ft. sailing wherry called "Robin >>>>>>> Hood" >>>>>>> which had its mainsail carried away during the race. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know the following:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. rowing wherries were open boats used predominantly to carry >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> goods across the harbour and could be propelled by one to four oars >>>>>>> depending on length, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. sailing wherries were indigenous to the Norfolk Broads, were of >>>>>>> shallow >>>>>>> draught and had a collapsible mast to negotiate bridges. My Norfolk >>>>>>> informant tells me that they were not particularly seaworthy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. I know that the South Coast sailing wherries did go to sea and >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> intercepted off the French coast and suspected of smuggling so they >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> seaworthy. I assume that they were partly or wholly decked out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anybody tell me how these south coast sailing wherries differed >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> the Norfolk kind and whether they would have been built locally?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ken Grubb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>>> message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: >>>>>> 16/04/2008 17:34 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>> message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: >>>> 22/04/2008 15:51 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1415 - Release Date: >> 05/05/2008 06:01 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Which one was that?? I e-mailed you on Sunday with two articles attached. Did you get it? Regards Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > Ken did you get my e-mail? Lesley > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > > >> Hello Leslie, >> >> I have received an excellent article on the Spithead wherries. Would you >> care to let me have your e-mail address and I will send you copy off >> forum. >> >> Regards >> >> Ken Grubb >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >> >> >>> Hi Ken, yes I read that, I also read quite a few other newspaper reports >>> of >>> certain activities concerning court actions etc. I love all that, it >>> really >>> brings the names you have written down to life doesn't it? I am sure I >>> have >>> a book about Portsmouth Watermen with photos in. I will have to have >>> another look at it to see if your 'Grubb' folk are in there. Wouldn't >>> it >>> be >>> great to get a photo of them. >>> Regards Lesley >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>> >>> >>>> Hello again Leslie, >>>> >>>> It would seem that your lot often competed against my lot! >>>> >>>> In August 1866 during the Royal Albert Yacht Regatta, W.Passells in the >>>> 26ft. long "Duke", J.Passells in the 25 ft. long "Dispatch" and W.Grubb >>>> in >>>> the 34 ft. long "Robin Hood" took part in a race for sailing wherries. >>>> >>>> Result :- "Dispatch" came second, "Robin Hood" lost its sail and >>>> "Duke" finshed unplaced. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ken Grubb >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >>>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Kenneth, you refer to The Hampshire Telegraph 19th c Newspaper >>>>> articles >>>>> about Watermen. I wonder do you know of a free site or link to this >>>>> article? My PASSELLS family came from Portsea and Southampton and a >>>>> few >>>>> of >>>>> them were Watermen. I would dearly love to find out if they are >>>>> mentioned. >>>>> Lesley Mann >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>>>> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:02 PM >>>>> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently consulted the Hampshire Telegraph of the 19thC and come >>>>>> across >>>>>> several references to members of my Portsea family, who were all >>>>>> watermen, >>>>>> taking part in various regattas held in Spithead off Southsea beach. >>>>>> In >>>>>> 1866, one was competing in a 34 ft. sailing wherry called "Robin >>>>>> Hood" >>>>>> which had its mainsail carried away during the race. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know the following:- >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. rowing wherries were open boats used predominantly to carry people >>>>>> and >>>>>> goods across the harbour and could be propelled by one to four oars >>>>>> depending on length, >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. sailing wherries were indigenous to the Norfolk Broads, were of >>>>>> shallow >>>>>> draught and had a collapsible mast to negotiate bridges. My Norfolk >>>>>> informant tells me that they were not particularly seaworthy. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. I know that the South Coast sailing wherries did go to sea and one >>>>>> was >>>>>> intercepted off the French coast and suspected of smuggling so they >>>>>> were >>>>>> seaworthy. I assume that they were partly or wholly decked out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anybody tell me how these south coast sailing wherries differed >>>>>> from >>>>>> the Norfolk kind and whether they would have been built locally?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken Grubb >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>>> message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>> message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG. >>>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: >>>>> 16/04/2008 17:34 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: >>> 22/04/2008 15:51 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1415 - Release Date: > 05/05/2008 06:01 >

Ken did you get my e-mail? Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > Hello Leslie, > > I have received an excellent article on the Spithead wherries. Would you > care to let me have your e-mail address and I will send you copy off > forum. > > Regards > > Ken Grubb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries > > >> Hi Ken, yes I read that, I also read quite a few other newspaper reports >> of >> certain activities concerning court actions etc. I love all that, it >> really >> brings the names you have written down to life doesn't it? I am sure I >> have >> a book about Portsmouth Watermen with photos in. I will have to have >> another look at it to see if your 'Grubb' folk are in there. Wouldn't it >> be >> great to get a photo of them. >> Regards Lesley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >> >> >>> Hello again Leslie, >>> >>> It would seem that your lot often competed against my lot! >>> >>> In August 1866 during the Royal Albert Yacht Regatta, W.Passells in the >>> 26ft. long "Duke", J.Passells in the 25 ft. long "Dispatch" and W.Grubb >>> in >>> the 34 ft. long "Robin Hood" took part in a race for sailing wherries. >>> >>> Result :- "Dispatch" came second, "Robin Hood" lost its sail and >>> "Duke" finshed unplaced. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ken Grubb >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "lesley mann" <lesley.mann102@ntlworld.com> >>> To: <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>> >>> >>>> Hi Kenneth, you refer to The Hampshire Telegraph 19th c Newspaper >>>> articles >>>> about Watermen. I wonder do you know of a free site or link to this >>>> article? My PASSELLS family came from Portsea and Southampton and a >>>> few >>>> of >>>> them were Watermen. I would dearly love to find out if they are >>>> mentioned. >>>> Lesley Mann >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kenneth Grubb" <kengrubb@talktalk.net> >>>> To: <ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:02 PM >>>> Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Sailing wherries >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I recently consulted the Hampshire Telegraph of the 19thC and come >>>>> across >>>>> several references to members of my Portsea family, who were all >>>>> watermen, >>>>> taking part in various regattas held in Spithead off Southsea beach. >>>>> In >>>>> 1866, one was competing in a 34 ft. sailing wherry called "Robin Hood" >>>>> which had its mainsail carried away during the race. >>>>> >>>>> I know the following:- >>>>> >>>>> 1. rowing wherries were open boats used predominantly to carry people >>>>> and >>>>> goods across the harbour and could be propelled by one to four oars >>>>> depending on length, >>>>> >>>>> 2. sailing wherries were indigenous to the Norfolk Broads, were of >>>>> shallow >>>>> draught and had a collapsible mast to negotiate bridges. My Norfolk >>>>> informant tells me that they were not particularly seaworthy. >>>>> >>>>> 3. I know that the South Coast sailing wherries did go to sea and one >>>>> was >>>>> intercepted off the French coast and suspected of smuggling so they >>>>> were >>>>> seaworthy. I assume that they were partly or wholly decked out. >>>>> >>>>> Can anybody tell me how these south coast sailing wherries differed >>>>> from >>>>> the Norfolk kind and whether they would have been built locally?? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ken Grubb >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>> message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: >>>> 16/04/2008 17:34 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: >> 22/04/2008 15:51 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >