Ah!! a man who knows why the pig was sat on the wall!!!!!! Or so the story is supposed to go in Yorkley! My Grandfather lived in Parkend for a while when my Dad was a lad - and the GUNTERs ran pubs thereabouts, and the BATHs, my grandmothers mothers family hailed from there too. My Dad was a manager at the pin factory until his retirement.(1984ish) I dont know of any bombs in Whitecroft but i know there was a factory explosion which flung debris into surrounding gardens a piec of which killed a young girl playing in the back garden - but I think that was before WW2. Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: John Wilding <[email protected]> To: Nash Family <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > Bill > > I guess winemaking was a part of Forest tradition - my father used to make > gallons of it - collecting any unwanted fruit from shops as well as picking > anything he could find in the hedgerows. > > The Onward band would go round the village every Christmas and it wasn't > unususal for one or two of them to get no further than our house. > > The only Forest bomb I am aware of is one that fell on Whitecroft - sorry I > know no more details. > > Regards > > John in Sussex by the Sea seeking Wilding Phipps Wasley > Iles/Isles/Eyles/Hiles and 40 other variants of the name all in GLS mainly > FOD. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nash Family" <[email protected]> > To: "John Wilding" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > Slip of the fingers... and brain > > Princess Royal or Par' Gutta in the vernacular > > > > Yes they did make so named bricks - my grandfather's air-raid shelter was > > built of them... > > In this otherwise unused semi-underground structure ( the forest was never > > bombed - a few stray bombs fell in the forest but no specific raids) built > > in the early part of WW2 when the threat of bombs and invasion seemed only > > too real, my Grandfather made and stored his home-made wines. No > > dandelion, elderflower, elderberry or nettle was safe from rendering onto > a > > strange alcholic potion. He was however virtually a tea-totaller, > drinking > > his own wine only occasionally and then but a glassful. He judged many a > > local wine show, judiciously spitting out after each taste and normalising > > his pallette with bread and cheese...... > > > > > > Regards > > > > Bill Nash > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Wilding <[email protected]> > > To: Nash Family <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Do you happen to know if Park Royal Colliery became Princess Royal ?? It > > > is > > > the same initials and I still have a brick made at Princess Royal > > Brickworks > > > where my father, 10 uncles and 2 grandfathers worked. > > > > > > My paternal grandfather would haul a sled underground and go home at the > > end > > > of the shift with his shoulders looking like liver. The poor man spent > > many > > > hours just whimpering - what a debt we owe to our ancestors! > > > > > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nash Family" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 2:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > > > > Mind you it doesn't mean he wasn't a railway engine driver - but they > > > tended > > > > to be a bit more "snooty" about their more complex proffession and > > called > > > > themselves Locomotive Drivers. Lists exist of most of the locomotive > > men > > > > who worked for the Sad & Weary (Severn and Wye Valley Railway) I am > not > > > so > > > > sure about the GWR lines that came up to Cinderford via Bullo GWR FOD > > > Branch > > > > Railway) and Blakeney (FOD Central Railway) or the GWR Mitcheldean > Road > > > and > > > > FOD Junction Railway. > > > > > > > > The best Texts I have read on the railways in the FOD are HW Parr's > The > > > > Severn & Wye Railway, and thw GWR in Dean ( anyone who has a copy of > > the > > > > latter I am "green" I read the copy in the Coleford library some 20 > > Years > > > > ago and have been unable to find a copy new or second hand since) > > > > > > > > Most probably he was one of that group who drove the winding engines > at > > > the > > > > pit. Some "engine drivers" actually drove electric winding engines > > which > > > > hauled the drams of coal through the pits to the shaft where they > would > > be > > > > lifted to the surface in a cage. Also some engine drivers drove > > pumping > > > > engines to keep the pits clear of water. > > > > > > > > I know this because my granfather did these jobs at Flour Mill and > Park > > > > Royal Collieries and drove both electric and steam engines. Steam > > engines > > > > would be used on the surface and electric underground.. There was NO > GAS > > > > (methane) in FOD pits which meant there was little risk from sparks or > > > naked > > > > flames. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bill Nash > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Gary Mason <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:29 AM > > > > Subject: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the 1881 census, my gg-grandfather, Alfred DAVIS > > > > > from Ruardean, claimed to be an Engine Driver. > > > > > > > > > > I'm presuming this to mean a railway engine driver. > > > > > > > > > > Is there anywhere that I can go to find out more about > > > > > his job, and the railway industry in and around > > > > > Ruardean ? > > > > > > > > > > Gary Mason > > > > > Calgary > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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