Jim, I am pleased I could help. You can find them all online. These are the urls for 1881 census, Gloucestershire 1851 & 1901. You will also find FreeBMD useful. I am posting to the list, as it may help other 'New' researchers. 1881 census http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_ census.asp 1851 Gloucestershire census http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm You may care to take another look at West Dean, because there are many more DODDs 1901 census http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl but remember that West Dean BMDs were registered in Monmouth Registration District. Another valuable site is... http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/ There was an error on the 1881 census I sent you, they were born in West Dean, not East Dean !! Cheers....Hazel ---original messages--- Hiya Hazel, Boy talk about fast work? I thought I would post a little more info than the last time I tried this as I got little response and the Dobbs have been a real challenge for me to locate within the existing family structure, most of them that I knew are already passed over.. I am fairly new to this hobby-lifestyle but love the challenge, just wish I understood more?? I guess one would say take baby steps and all must walk before they can run :-) I cannot thank you enough Hazel. Much appreciated.. So how did you figure out to look in York for a family I thought was from Gloucestershire??? I know, experience and knowledge.. Is there any specific source of information you suggest I subscribe to to assist me in my searches? Cheers, Jim... -----Original Message----- From: SWLady123@aol.com [mailto:SWLady123@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:40 PM To: ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FoD] Dobbs-1881 & 1851 census Hi Jim, Have you looked for them in the 1881 census online? if not, this looks like your family. Source Information: 1881 Dwelling 25 Eldon Road Census Place Rotherham, York James DOBBS Head M Male 40 Whitecroft East Dean, Glos Coal Miner Elizabeth DOBBS Wife M Female 36 Whitecroft East Dean, Gloucester George DOBBS Son U Male 20 Whitecroft East Dean, Glos Coal Miner James A. DOBBS Son Male 13 Whitecroft East Dean, Glos Coal Miner It looks like you have a long line of James !! Here they are in 1851 census of West Dean, Glos, which gives you another generation.. DOBBS James 47 Coal Miner West Dean Elizabeth 41 Wollaston Emma 15 West Dean Elizabeth 13 West Dean James 10 West Dean William 8 West Dean Sarah 6 West Dean Jane 2 West Dean Good Luck with your research, Best Wishes for a speedy recovery......Hazel