Hello You make FoD sound a haven, as I am sure it is! I am looking forward to visiting even more now. One of the joys of genealogy is finding out about life and culture of both the times and the area - I find it fascinating and it helps imagine how life was for my ancestors and almost "brings them to life" again. I am sending off for a report on the working conditions in Gloucestershire mines as so many of my ancestors were miners. It was mining that caused them to migrate to the Potteries for work. Thanks for all the other information, it will keep me busy for a while exploring it all. Again the generosity of this list to beginners like me is amazing. Thank you all! Janet Howell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilding" <john.wilding1@btinternet.com> To: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [FoD] Jenkins/Davies > Hello again Janet > > Three Sarahs bapt at Parkend and I think you may be in luck! > > DAVIS Sarah 1825 Sep 11 dau of Thomas & Elizabeth Pillowell collier PARKEND > DAVIS Sarah 1827 May 13 dau of William & Mary Breams Eaves coalminer PARKEND > DAVIS Sarah 1830 Oct 3 dau of William & sarah Yorkley coalminer PARKEND > > I think you mentioned William & Mary before. > > You will enjoy the FoD I'm sure. It was cut off in the middle ages by the > dense forest and we have our own language which sadly is now dying out. > > It is a really lovely part of the country and if I lived nearer (Hastings > now) I would happily devote a day or two to show you round - Breams Eaves > and Woodside included!! When you are there just think how it must have been > 60 years ago when I had it all to myself as a child - the car was a distant > dream - well almost!!. > > If you are interested in the area there are bookshops in Coleford > www.ForestBookshop.com > and Lydney which have quite a variety of books on aspects of the Forest some > specialising in villages others in trades and some in collieries and local > brass bands etc. > > The local registrar is at 6 Belle Vue Road Cinderford 01 594 822113 email > vwheeler@gloscc.gov.uk and at Cinderford Library I think you can look at > back copies of the local papers. > > Gloucester Records Office is just off Worcester St Gloucester almost > opposite Gloucester Rugby Club at Kingsholm. The oldest fish and chip shop > in the world is at the back of Sainsbury's - it's about 400 years old if me > memory serves me! Last time I was there it was still as good as ever!! > > Gloucester FHS is at Spread Eagle Court Northgate St - open most days - 01 > 452 524344 > membership £10pa email editor@gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucester Library is in Brunswick Road 01 452 426976 > > If there is anything else you can think of which might be helpful just let > me know. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> > To: <ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:51 AM > Subject: Re: [FoD] Jenkins/Davies > > > > Hi > > > > My Sarah Davies was born about 1827 and married Shadrach Jenkins (b. 1831) > about 1852-1856 I guess probably at Bream or Parkend. Their first child (I > think the first) was John born March 1857 at Bream. They were still at > Bream in 1870 for a later child (according to the two birth certs I have). > > > > We are both looking for the same name in the same area and time frame so > it is likely our paths will cross on this. My Sarah's name is spelt Davies > not Davis on the two certs I have for two children but that may just be the > way the registrar spelt the name (I don't know if Sarah was literate). > > > > My most likely Sarah on 1851 census is one living at home with father > William and mother Mary. The age fits what I have on later census entries. > This is the 1851 entry from the online transcription for West Dean > > 13 DAVIS William 75 Wood Collier Kemple/Remple? > > Mary 63 Newent > > Sarah 24 Dressmaker West Dean > > Caroline Grand daughter 7 West Dean > > > > From IGI I have - > > > > Caroline Davis bap 22 Oct 1843 St James Bream, mother Sarah Davis, > no father given C036491 > > also Jane Davis bap14 May 1815, parents William and Mary Davis, same > church > > and Hannah Davis bap 26 Oct 1817, ditto > > and Caroline Davis bap 28 May 1820, ditto > > These look like 3 sisters for Sarah but there is no entry for Sarah's > baptism. It also seems from the above that Caroline was an illegitimate > daughter. I'll know more when I follow up the IGI with some confirmation. > > > > I'll keep a look out for your Sarah (and you for mine) and hopefully we > will both get somewhere. > > > > Janet Howell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: gensearch > > To: 'Janet Singleton' > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:24 AM > > Subject: RE: [FoD] Jenkins/Davies > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > I have seen your recent postings to the FoD list > > > > Unfortunately I cannot help you with the names you mention, but it this > particular posting you mention a Sarah Davis - I am not sure of your time > frame for Sarah Davis but we are both looking in the same area. Whilst I > doubt that "your" Sarah and mine could be one and the same I am at a brick > wall with mine. > > > > > > > > I am looking for the marriage of a SARAH DAVIS to JOHN JAMES around 1856 > (might as well be looking for "Smith and Jones") but their first child was > born around 1857 so am guessing an 1856 marriage. > > > > > > > > I have John & Sarah James on the 1861 census and all later ones, living > in Pillowell, and both are buried at Parkend. From census info Sarah was > born~1831/2 > > > > I have been given some transcriptions of DAVIS baptisms from Parkend and > have a possible with William DAVIS as father, but need the marriage cert to > tell me who her father was. There are several Sarah Davis' on the 1851, > none can be ruled out but none agree very well with respect to birth year, > the most likely is a servant in Aylburton, which is no a lot of help! > > > > > > > > I have birth cert of Caroline James (1864) JOHN & SARAH's daughter and > my GGrandmother - this gives mother's maiden name as formerly SARAH DAVIS. > > > > > > > > If you ever come across a Sarah DAVIS who might be mine I would love to > hear from you! > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > Angela Gibson > > > > Sydney, Australia > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Janet Singleton [mailto:Hywel@risinsun.co.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2004 8:29 AM > > To: ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Jenkins/Davies > > > > > > > > Hi Jenny > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! I was right I think that John was the oldest and > glad > > > > to find an Arthur as in 1891 Shadrach has a grandson called Arthur > Shadrach > > > > Jenkins ! (as yet I don't know who's son) > > > > > > > > I have lots of leads now for next step of research. (this all started > from > > > > an "idea" to reasearch my maternal line which will go back now through > Sarah > > > > Davis and also because I received a small photo in a broach when my aunt > > > > died at christmas. I believe the photo must be Sarah H or Sarah below > > > > judging by the costume) > > > > > > > > Again. many thanks > > > > Janet > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jenny Smith" <jms.ciren@virgin.net> > > > > To: <ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:57 PM > > > > Subject: [FoD] Jenkins/Davies > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Janet > > > > > I have the following > > > > > 1871 census > > > > > Bream Eaves. > > > > > Shadrach JENKINS age 39 Iron Ore Miner born West Dean > > > > > Sarah age 44 " > > > > > John age 14 " > > > > > Rachel age 10 " > > > > > Arthur age 7 " > > > > > Emma?/ Evan? age 5 " > > > > > William T 3 " > > > > > Sarah H age 10 mon " > > > > > > > > > > In the good old days B.C. [before Computers] I copied out all the > Jenkins > > > > from 1841-1891 from originals, No Shadrach before 1871 in the Forest. > > > > However, I did not check the outer areas, on the Severn etc. > > > > > Ill check again other items. I had a quick look at the P.R's I had > > > > transcribed, for Bream, Newland and Clearwell, no luck. > > > > > Maybe they were Non Conformist? > > > > > My JENKINS were in Clearwell/Ellwood George and Sarah Mousel > > > > > George and Elizabeth Bushell and George and Ellen Hoare > > > > > from Jernny Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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