Hi John WOW - I think you have them!! It fits in with my theory from 1851 census ie mother Maria widowed with son Meshach ! I need to use Parloc now to find Parkend - do you know the name of the church? Many thanks Janet (jumping with joy at having a "lead" for further reasearch) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilding" <john.wilding1@btinternet.com> To: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [FoD] JENKINS / DAVIES > Hello again Janet > > I have had another ferret through my various databases and think that I may > have found Shadrach's bapt at Parkend. > > Breams Eaves is mentioned so I think we may be on the right path. > > JENKINS Shadrach 1831 Aug 28 son of Thomas & Maria Breams Eaves coalminer > PARKEND. > > A few other children of T & M are mentioned as follows > > JENKINS Ann Maria 1836 Aug 7 dau of Thomas & Maria Bream miner PARKEND > JENKINS Daniel 1826 May 7 son of Thomas & Maria Millhill coalminer PARKEND > JENKINS Elinor 1828 Aug 17 dau of Thomas & Maria Pillowell coalminer PARKEND > JENKINS James 1824 Jan 25 son of Thomas & Maria Oakenhill coalminer PARKEND > JENKINS John 1822 Apr 28 son of Thomas & Maria Oakenhill coalminer PARKEND > JENKINS Kezia 1834 Jan 19 dau of Thomas & Maria Breams Eaves collier PARKEND > JENKINS Mesbach 1836 Aug 7 son of Thomas & Maria Bream miner PARKEND > > Oakenhill is in Yorkley - 50 years ago I used to deliver papers to Oakenhill > Lodge! > > I have small databases for marriages and burials 1750/1840 but I only have > Parkend bapts. > > At Parkend there are also the following births > > JENKINS Jane 1837 Oct 8 dau of Maria Woodside single woman PARKEND > and > JENKINS Harriett 1830 May 23 dau of Maria Whitecroft single woman PARKEND > > JENKINS Louisa 1833 Dec 29 dau of Maria Breams Eaves single woman PARKEND > JENKINS William 1827 Nov 25 son of Maria Pillowell single woman PARKEND > > > I do hope that these will be of help. > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> > To: <ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [FoD] JENKINS / DAVIES > > > > Hello > > > > It would be neat if we could make a connection! Shadrach Jenkins is my > > gggrandfather and came from Bream but that is all I know at the moment as > > fact. I am trying to get a hold of some ideas to follow for further > > research. I outline one in my email. > > > > I agree that George the lodger is a safer bet for you but if he is 20 then > > he won't be a brother to Shadrach unless he is a twin. He could well be a > > cousin. There were a lot of Jenkins in Woodside Bream at the time. > > > > Thanks for your info, if I can make a link with any of them I'll let you > > know, > > > > Thanks again > > > > Janet Howell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Wilding" <john.wilding1@btinternet.com> > > To: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [FoD] JENKINS / DAVIES > > > > > > > Hello Janet > > > > > > Your message has struck a few chords with me - Caroline Baldwin was my > > > GGGrandmother!! > > > > > > I believe that she married George Jenkins who was 20 on the 1851 census > > and > > > shown to have been born in Bath. George was a lodger in the Baldwin > house > > at > > > Woodside Bream. I do not have the marriage cert and as there was another > > > George age 19 also living at Woodside at the time the possibility exists > > > that the second George married Caroline but I think that the lodger is > > most > > > likely! > > > > > > I haven't tried to trace the descendants of the marriage as they are not > > my > > > direct line so I am not able to answer some of your questions but I have > > the > > > following children for George & Caroline - Maria (my Gt grandmother) > > > 13.1.1857 Richard 27.8.1848 Fanny-Maria 23.3.1855 and Sarah Jane > > 27.5.1860. > > > > > > Maria married Thomas Wasley of Deerhurst - known children Florence > Maria > > > 4.9.1882 Lilly 1879 Osborne T 1880 Henry 24.4.1896. > > > > > > I'm not sure that any of this will help you but if it does please let me > > > know. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> > > > To: <ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:05 AM > > > Subject: [FoD] JENKINS / DAVIES > > > > > > > > > > Following information from 1881 and 1891 census and 2 birth certs I > have > > > the > > > > following > > > > Family so far seems to be > > > > name born / place 1891 / 1881 > > > > Shadrach Jenkins 1832 Lidney / Bream > > > > Sarah Jenkins (neeDavies) 1827 Lidney / Bream Woodside > > > > John Jenkins 1857 ? / Bream cert 8th March > 1857 > > > reg Coleford > > > > William Jenkins 1868 Lidney / ? > > > > Sarah Hannah Jenkins 1870 Lidney / Bream Woodside cert 30th > > > May1870 reg Coleford > > > > > > > > John may well be the oldest but I am sure there must be more children. > > I > > > > can't find anything on IGI (Shadrach is proving elusive). They were > > > living > > > > at West Dean in 1870 when Sarah was born. > > > > > > > > Using the 1851 Glo census for West Dean online I did find > > > > > > > > 13 DAVIS William 75 Wood Collier Kemple/Remple? > > > > Mary 63 Newent > > > > Sarah 24 Dressmaker West Dean > > > > Caroline Grand daughter 7 West Dean > > > > > > > > 14 BALDWIN Frances Widow/er 51 Woolaston > > > > Caroline 17 West Dean > > > > John 12 Coal Miner West Dean > > > > FREEMAN Samuel Lodger 23 Coal Miner West Dean > > > > JENKINS Lodger 2- Coal Miner Newland > > > > > > > > 47 JENKINS Maria Widow/er 55 West Dean > > > > Mesach ? 12 Coal Miner West Dean > > > > Alice 11 West Dean > > > > > > > > I am working on the theory that this is my Shadrach (lodger) aged 20 > > > living next > > > > door to his future wife with his mother and brother Mesach (name > fits!) > > > > living a few houses away. I remember seeing on a mining history web > > site > > > > that a Meshach Jenkins died aged 18. > > > > > > > > Can anyone add any details to this or come up with helpful suggestions > > for > > > further searches on line? In > > > > particular it would help to see the family on 1861 or 1871 census as I > > > know > > > > they were at Bream, West Dean then for both John and Sarah's births. > > (They > > > > have emigrated to Staffordshire by 1891) > > > > > > > > Many thanks in anticipation > > > > > > > > Janet Howell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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