I am afraid don't known for sure. I would have though all record would have gravvitated back to Newland Elizabeth Jack <[email protected]> fromthe Glos family history Assn would be able to direct you to the monumental inscription work done by the now defunct FOD Family Hist Soc which I seem to remember included Bream Elizabeth I hope you don't mind this copy) There are a number of my NASH relatives in the churchyard... I remember going there with my Grandfather and him pointing them out... but I now can't remember who... I believe the existing Bream Church/ Chapel is of a later date than 1750 regards Regards Bill Nash researching NASH,(Glos Somerset Barnett London) GUNTER,BATH,CONSTERDINE (Glos) SMITH (Monmouth), KEAR, HUGHES, GWILLIAM, KNIGHT(Glos) DEVANE, ELWIN, (Kent Surrey) SHAW (Kent Surrey S Ireland) MILES MORGAN JENKINS (Glos) Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: philvn <[email protected]> To: Nash Family <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [FoD] Chapels of Ease > I was interested by your detailed comment on the extra-parochial staus of > much of the Forest and the status of the [CofE] chapels. One such was > Bream, a 'chapel' of Newland I believe. > Do you know if separate registers or other records exist for Bream in > 1700-1750 or thereabouts? > Researching VAUGHAN of Whitecroft m. [1723] Eliz. JONES of Bream > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nash Family <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > > > > Take it from me who was born and brought up there and has a good map > > Coleford Newland,,,,etc ARE in the WEST of the dean the western boudary > > being the wye river... > > East Dean being that area from the Lydbrook,Cannop and Parkend Lydney > Valley > > to the River Leaddon (roughly the old Glos to Ledbury railway) Perhaps > not > > as far as the Leaddon but certainly beyond the foothills nr Newent . The > > "Miners Laws and Priviledges" states the eastern boundary as from > > "Gloucester Bridge (through) the half deale of Newent and Ross Ash" > (reign > > of Edward III) ("deale" here means share or part so "half of Newent > > district") That means Dymock , Linton etc may be a bit doubtfull as being > > in the Forest.... but I digress East Dean realy centres on Cinderford, > West > > on Coleford. Why isn't Cinderford used like Coleford as an identity in > > these early documents - basically because it is a newcomer, it didn't > realy > > exist beyond a hotchpotch of cottages prior to about 1850 > > The East & West Dean area took in that part of the Forest not included in > > the peripheral parishes, it was a Royal Forest and as such not part of a > > Parish. As minerals were more commercially exploited so settlements were > > built. It took until the end of the 19th century before local government > > was reformed on the lines of what there is today. Prior to that those > born > > in the "Wild Forest" were baptised in the chapels of Ease, or brought to > the > > peripheral parishes, Newland ,Staunton, Bicknor, Ruardean, Newent, > Westbury, > > Newnham, Lydney, Awre, Tiddenham, St Briavels.. I think. These represent > the > > old churches, you will find all the churches inside that area are > relatively > > modern (19th Century). The chapels of Ease were "sponsored" by the > nearest > > peripheral parish, for instance Coleford had only a Chapel of Ease > sponsored > > by Newland until the early 19th century. The importance of being baptised > > was not only for purposed of preventing damnation in the afterlife but > > providing protection in the current one. It was a parishes' > responsibility > > to look after those registered within its boundary, and the application of > > the Poor Law, the management of entry to workhouses etc was all based on > > your registration within a parish. There were two ways to get registered, > > be born in the parish and have your baptism registered, or similarly have > > your marriage registered. > > > > I think thats pretty much right - its my understanding anyway > > > > Regards > > > > Bill Nash > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Papworth <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > > > > > > > Roger, > > > > > > West Dean seems to be a term used to describe the east side of the > Forest. > > > I'm not sure what the exact geographical limits are, but from what I've > > > seen, Coleford, Newland and St Briavels all fall into this area. > > > > > > Regards....Steve > > > > > > >From: "Roger Green" <[email protected]> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > > > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:44:52 +0100 > > > > > > > >James Green aged 38 was accidently killed while working in a coal pit > > > >15/3/1849 at High Beeches. > > > > >From the 1851 census (Bush Pit Coleford) he left a: > > > >wife Sarah 32 > > > >dau Ema 11 > > > >son Thomas 9 (this is my line) > > > >son william 8 > > > >son james 4 > > > >son john 4 > > > >dau ann 2 > > > >Sarah and children were all born at West Dean. From the 1841 ( The > > Persh ) > > > >census James was born out of the county and there was also a dau Ellen > bn > > > >about 1837. > > > > > > > >Is there anyone researching this line ? > > > > > > > >Where is West Dean in relation to Coleford ? > > > >Any help appreciated > > > >Thanks in anticipation > > > > > > > >Roger in Stalham Norfolk > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > > > >There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site > > > >[email protected] , dont forget > > > >http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs. > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > >Source for Family History Online. 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