Roger, West Dean seems to be a term used to describe the east side of the Forest. I'm not sure what the exact geographical limits are, but from what I've seen, Coleford, Newland and St Briavels all fall into this area. Regards....Steve >From: "Roger Green" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FoD] Greens in Coleford >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:44:52 +0100 > >James Green aged 38 was accidently killed while working in a coal pit >15/3/1849 at High Beeches. > >From the 1851 census (Bush Pit Coleford) he left a: >wife Sarah 32 >dau Ema 11 >son Thomas 9 (this is my line) >son william 8 >son james 4 >son john 4 >dau ann 2 >Sarah and children were all born at West Dean. From the 1841 ( The Persh ) >census James was born out of the county and there was also a dau Ellen bn >about 1837. > >Is there anyone researching this line ? > >Where is West Dean in relation to Coleford ? >Any help appreciated >Thanks in anticipation > >Roger in Stalham Norfolk > > >==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== >There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site >[email protected] , dont forget >http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Take it from me who was born and brought up there and has a good map Coleford Newland,,,,etc ARE in the WEST of the dean the western boudary being the wye river... East Dean being that area from the Lydbrook,Cannop and Parkend Lydney Valley to the River Leaddon (roughly the old Glos to Ledbury railway) Perhaps not as far as the Leaddon but certainly beyond the foothills nr Newent . The "Miners Laws and Priviledges" states the eastern boundary as from "Gloucester Bridge (through) the half deale of Newent and Ross Ash" (reign of Edward III) ("deale" here means share or part so "half of Newent district") That means Dymock , Linton etc may be a bit doubtfull as being in the Forest.... but I digress East Dean realy centres on Cinderford, West on Coleford. Why isn't Cinderford used like Coleford as an identity in these early documents - basically because it is a newcomer, it didn't realy exist beyond a hotchpotch of cottages prior to about 1850 The East & West Dean area took in that part of the Forest not included in the peripheral parishes, it was a Royal Forest and as such not part of a Parish. As minerals were more commercially exploited so settlements were built. It took until the end of the 19th century before local government was reformed on the lines of what there is today. Prior to that those born in the "Wild Forest" were baptised in the chapels of Ease, or brought to the peripheral parishes, Newland ,Staunton, Bicknor, Ruardean, Newent, Westbury, Newnham, Lydney, Awre, Tiddenham, St Briavels.. I think. These represent the old churches, you will find all the churches inside that area are relatively modern (19th Century). The chapels of Ease were "sponsored" by the nearest peripheral parish, for instance Coleford had only a Chapel of Ease sponsored by Newland until the early 19th century. The importance of being baptised was not only for purposed of preventing damnation in the afterlife but providing protection in the current one. It was a parishes' responsibility to look after those registered within its boundary, and the application of the Poor Law, the management of entry to workhouses etc was all based on your registration within a parish. There were two ways to get registered, be born in the parish and have your baptism registered, or similarly have your marriage registered. I think thats pretty much right - its my understanding anyway Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Papworth <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > Roger, > > West Dean seems to be a term used to describe the east side of the Forest. > I'm not sure what the exact geographical limits are, but from what I've > seen, Coleford, Newland and St Briavels all fall into this area. > > Regards....Steve > > >From: "Roger Green" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:44:52 +0100 > > > >James Green aged 38 was accidently killed while working in a coal pit > >15/3/1849 at High Beeches. > > >From the 1851 census (Bush Pit Coleford) he left a: > >wife Sarah 32 > >dau Ema 11 > >son Thomas 9 (this is my line) > >son william 8 > >son james 4 > >son john 4 > >dau ann 2 > >Sarah and children were all born at West Dean. From the 1841 ( The Persh ) > >census James was born out of the county and there was also a dau Ellen bn > >about 1837. > > > >Is there anyone researching this line ? > > > >Where is West Dean in relation to Coleford ? > >Any help appreciated > >Thanks in anticipation > > > >Roger in Stalham Norfolk > > > > > >==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > >There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site > >[email protected] , dont forget > >http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs. > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > There is a Brain surname mailing list [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >