> Also where else reasonably locally can I get access to Birth, >Marriage, Death indexes. I believe that these are available at Cinderford Library, in Bellevue Road, next door to the local registrar. =============================== David Steel <[email protected]> Adelaide, South Australia keeper of the Gloucestershire Surnames List at <http://www.tpg.com.au/users/dsteel/glsnames.htm> =================================================

Hi Listers I've just subscribed - not because I have any Forest of Dean family because I havent. My family are All from the north of England but I live in the Forest and am at the point when I need to leave my PC and get out into the real world to check records which are not available on my PC / online. I just checked for my nearest LDS centre and to my surprise found one in Coleford - where I live. Is this correct : Forest of Dean England Wynols Hill Queensway Colesford, COLESFORD Phone: Gloucestershire Hours: GLOUCESTERSHIRE Closed: England Attention: ENGLAND If so could someone tell me the arrangements given that I've never visited an LDS centre before. What are the opening times, do I need to book etc etc. Also where else reasonably locally can I get access to Birth, Marriage, Death indexes. I have found 'Gloucestershire Family History Society Resource Centre' which appears to be open 10-4 (minus lunch) Tuesday - Thursday - is this correct ? Is there anywhere else I should try - given that I am not looking for any local records only those for Lancashire, Cumberland, Yorkshire and Scotland. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Regards Joy

> Two or three weeks ago someone kindly gave the address of a website which had some BMD's for Mitcheldean. I seem to have lost it and would be very grateful if somebody could put me out of my misery Marriages at Mitcheldean may be found at:- <http://www2.tpg.com.au/users/dsteel/marmitch.htm> =============================== David Steel <[email protected]> Adelaide, South Australia keeper of the Gloucestershire Surnames List at <http://www.tpg.com.au/users/dsteel/glsnames.htm> =================================================

Ah!! a man who knows why the pig was sat on the wall!!!!!! Or so the story is supposed to go in Yorkley! My Grandfather lived in Parkend for a while when my Dad was a lad - and the GUNTERs ran pubs thereabouts, and the BATHs, my grandmothers mothers family hailed from there too. My Dad was a manager at the pin factory until his retirement.(1984ish) I dont know of any bombs in Whitecroft but i know there was a factory explosion which flung debris into surrounding gardens a piec of which killed a young girl playing in the back garden - but I think that was before WW2. Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: John Wilding <[email protected]> To: Nash Family <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > Bill > > I guess winemaking was a part of Forest tradition - my father used to make > gallons of it - collecting any unwanted fruit from shops as well as picking > anything he could find in the hedgerows. > > The Onward band would go round the village every Christmas and it wasn't > unususal for one or two of them to get no further than our house. > > The only Forest bomb I am aware of is one that fell on Whitecroft - sorry I > know no more details. > > Regards > > John in Sussex by the Sea seeking Wilding Phipps Wasley > Iles/Isles/Eyles/Hiles and 40 other variants of the name all in GLS mainly > FOD. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nash Family" <[email protected]> > To: "John Wilding" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > Slip of the fingers... and brain > > Princess Royal or Par' Gutta in the vernacular > > > > Yes they did make so named bricks - my grandfather's air-raid shelter was > > built of them... > > In this otherwise unused semi-underground structure ( the forest was never > > bombed - a few stray bombs fell in the forest but no specific raids) built > > in the early part of WW2 when the threat of bombs and invasion seemed only > > too real, my Grandfather made and stored his home-made wines. No > > dandelion, elderflower, elderberry or nettle was safe from rendering onto > a > > strange alcholic potion. He was however virtually a tea-totaller, > drinking > > his own wine only occasionally and then but a glassful. He judged many a > > local wine show, judiciously spitting out after each taste and normalising > > his pallette with bread and cheese...... > > > > > > Regards > > > > Bill Nash > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Wilding <[email protected]> > > To: Nash Family <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Do you happen to know if Park Royal Colliery became Princess Royal ?? It > > > is > > > the same initials and I still have a brick made at Princess Royal > > Brickworks > > > where my father, 10 uncles and 2 grandfathers worked. > > > > > > My paternal grandfather would haul a sled underground and go home at the > > end > > > of the shift with his shoulders looking like liver. The poor man spent > > many > > > hours just whimpering - what a debt we owe to our ancestors! > > > > > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nash Family" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 2:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > > > > Mind you it doesn't mean he wasn't a railway engine driver - but they > > > tended > > > > to be a bit more "snooty" about their more complex proffession and > > called > > > > themselves Locomotive Drivers. Lists exist of most of the locomotive > > men > > > > who worked for the Sad & Weary (Severn and Wye Valley Railway) I am > not > > > so > > > > sure about the GWR lines that came up to Cinderford via Bullo GWR FOD > > > Branch > > > > Railway) and Blakeney (FOD Central Railway) or the GWR Mitcheldean > Road > > > and > > > > FOD Junction Railway. > > > > > > > > The best Texts I have read on the railways in the FOD are HW Parr's > The > > > > Severn & Wye Railway, and thw GWR in Dean ( anyone who has a copy of > > the > > > > latter I am "green" I read the copy in the Coleford library some 20 > > Years > > > > ago and have been unable to find a copy new or second hand since) > > > > > > > > Most probably he was one of that group who drove the winding engines > at > > > the > > > > pit. Some "engine drivers" actually drove electric winding engines > > which > > > > hauled the drams of coal through the pits to the shaft where they > would > > be > > > > lifted to the surface in a cage. Also some engine drivers drove > > pumping > > > > engines to keep the pits clear of water. > > > > > > > > I know this because my granfather did these jobs at Flour Mill and > Park > > > > Royal Collieries and drove both electric and steam engines. Steam > > engines > > > > would be used on the surface and electric underground.. There was NO > GAS > > > > (methane) in FOD pits which meant there was little risk from sparks or > > > naked > > > > flames. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bill Nash > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Gary Mason <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:29 AM > > > > Subject: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the 1881 census, my gg-grandfather, Alfred DAVIS > > > > > from Ruardean, claimed to be an Engine Driver. > > > > > > > > > > I'm presuming this to mean a railway engine driver. > > > > > > > > > > Is there anywhere that I can go to find out more about > > > > > his job, and the railway industry in and around > > > > > Ruardean ? > > > > > > > > > > Gary Mason > > > > > Calgary > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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Two or three weeks ago someone kindly gave the address of a website which had some BMD's for Mitcheldean. I seem to have lost it and would be very grateful if somebody could put me out of my misery John

Hello, I am new to the list. I appreciate any help I can get! I'm hoping also to find some new cousins! Looking for information on my 2nd great grandparents - George MOLSON or MOULSON who was born in England. He married Annie CLUTTERBUCK who was also born in (Gloucester??) England. Their son, John Henry MOLSON or MOULSON was born 01 Jan. 1874 in Mitchledean, Gloucestershire, England. He immigrated to Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada sometime before 1910. He married Clara WHITE in Canada. She was from in Sileby, Leicestershire, England. They immigrated to the United States abt. 1916. It is said that George died while John was "young" and Annie remarried. I don't know if they had any other children. My grandmother who is 90, doesn't remember anything about her father's family. Diane Auburn, California, United States mailto:[email protected]

Mind you it doesn't mean he wasn't a railway engine driver - but they tended to be a bit more "snooty" about their more complex proffession and called themselves Locomotive Drivers. Lists exist of most of the locomotive men who worked for the Sad & Weary (Severn and Wye Valley Railway) I am not so sure about the GWR lines that came up to Cinderford via Bullo GWR FOD Branch Railway) and Blakeney (FOD Central Railway) or the GWR Mitcheldean Road and FOD Junction Railway. The best Texts I have read on the railways in the FOD are HW Parr's The Severn & Wye Railway, and thw GWR in Dean ( anyone who has a copy of the latter I am "green" I read the copy in the Coleford library some 20 Years ago and have been unable to find a copy new or second hand since) Most probably he was one of that group who drove the winding engines at the pit. Some "engine drivers" actually drove electric winding engines which hauled the drams of coal through the pits to the shaft where they would be lifted to the surface in a cage. Also some engine drivers drove pumping engines to keep the pits clear of water. I know this because my granfather did these jobs at Flour Mill and Park Royal Collieries and drove both electric and steam engines. Steam engines would be used on the surface and electric underground.. There was NO GAS (methane) in FOD pits which meant there was little risk from sparks or naked flames. Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Mason <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:29 AM Subject: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver > In the 1881 census, my gg-grandfather, Alfred DAVIS > from Ruardean, claimed to be an Engine Driver. > > I'm presuming this to mean a railway engine driver. > > Is there anywhere that I can go to find out more about > his job, and the railway industry in and around > Ruardean ? > > Gary Mason > Calgary > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site > [email protected] , dont forget http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs, try out the chatroom on our new look site > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

If I am correct it was Bevan Bros aka the Soudley Valley Coaches We used Soudley Valley Coaches whenever our school went on a trip or had an away sports match. I went to Brightlands School in Newnham 1961 - 1968 (approx) Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: D & E Byett <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: [FoD] relatives > Hello readers, > Has anyone any knowledge of the Bevan family of the > Soudley area of the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire? My grandmother Virginia > Byett was formerly a Bevan, and I believe her family ran a 'bus service in > the area. > > After her marriage to my grandfather, Thomas Byett, they lived for many > years in Buckshaft Lane, Ruspidge. > > My quest for information is to assist me with a family history which I am > presently working on. Any help would be much appreciated. > > Dennis Byett. > > > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site > [email protected] , dont forget http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs, try out the chatroom on our new look site > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hello readers, Has anyone any knowledge of the Bevan family of the Soudley area of the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire? My grandmother Virginia Byett was formerly a Bevan, and I believe her family ran a 'bus service in the area. After her marriage to my grandfather, Thomas Byett, they lived for many years in Buckshaft Lane, Ruspidge. My quest for information is to assist me with a family history which I am presently working on. Any help would be much appreciated. Dennis Byett.

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Not necessarily. The term "Engine Driver" was also used for the person who looked after steam engines, e.g. powering the cages in mines, so he could have been involved in the mining industry. Regards...Steve >From: Gary Mason <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FoD] Alfred DAVIS, Ruardean, Engine Driver >Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) > >In the 1881 census, my gg-grandfather, Alfred DAVIS >from Ruardean, claimed to be an Engine Driver. > >I'm presuming this to mean a railway engine driver. > <snip> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

In the 1881 census, my gg-grandfather, Alfred DAVIS from Ruardean, claimed to be an Engine Driver. I'm presuming this to mean a railway engine driver. Is there anywhere that I can go to find out more about his job, and the railway industry in and around Ruardean ? Gary Mason Calgary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

Don't forget the South Wales Borderers who recruited in the FOD as well Contact Annette Musker for help with SWBs she is a bit of an expert through her own family researches I have taken the liberty of copying her with this mail contact Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: John Wilding <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 6:43 AM Subject: [FoD] Pre WW1 Army Service > Is there anyone on the list who could make an educated guess as to which regiment Arthur Isles might have joined. > > He was born 8.6.1885 at Cinderford and by 26.12.1914 he was back living at Yorkley. The only other information I have is family lore which says that at one stage he served in India - but I believe that many regiments may have done so. > > Assuming that he joined the army around 1901-2 is anyone aware of a regiment which had a recruitment campaign in the Forest about that time? Alternatively could anyone suggest where I might reasonably begin my search? > > I'd be very grateful for any suggestions. > > John in Sussex by the Sea. > > He doesn't seem to appear on any Officer lists > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > I have had over 100 bounces in 2 weeks for the following email addresses [email protected] and [email protected] > who are you??? > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

John My grand-father Albert Watkins who was born and lived at Ruardean, served with the 1st Hereford Regiment. Albert was Enlisted 1914 and Discharged 1918. You can find a little story on him, together with a few of the places where he served at: http://www.watkins.org/photos/captions/Albert.shtml David Watkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 09 August 2001 21:43 Subject: [FoD] Pre WW1 Army Service > Is there anyone on the list who could make an educated guess as to which regiment Arthur Isles might have joined. > > He was born 8.6.1885 at Cinderford and by 26.12.1914 he was back living at Yorkley. The only other information I have is family lore which says that at one stage he served in India - but I believe that many regiments may have done so. > > Assuming that he joined the army around 1901-2 is anyone aware of a regiment which had a recruitment campaign in the Forest about that time? Alternatively could anyone suggest where I might reasonably begin my search? > > I'd be very grateful for any suggestions. > > John in Sussex by the Sea. > > He doesn't seem to appear on any Officer lists

He probably joined the Gloucesters, the local regiment, there is no easy way of tracking that down without a trip to the PRO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 09 August 2001 21:43 Subject: [FoD] Pre WW1 Army Service > Is there anyone on the list who could make an educated guess as to which regiment Arthur Isles might have joined. > > He was born 8.6.1885 at Cinderford and by 26.12.1914 he was back living at Yorkley. The only other information I have is family lore which says that at one stage he served in India - but I believe that many regiments may have done so. > > Assuming that he joined the army around 1901-2 is anyone aware of a regiment which had a recruitment campaign in the Forest about that time? Alternatively could anyone suggest where I might reasonably begin my search? > > I'd be very grateful for any suggestions. > > John in Sussex by the Sea. > > He doesn't seem to appear on any Officer lists >

Looking for a Walter Jones born April 14, 1888. We think he may have been born in England and emigrated to New York with his mother. He was placed in the New York Infant Asylum and surrendered for adoption by his mother. He was later sent to Iowa on the Orphan Train. His daughter would greatly appreciate finding out any information about his family. LaVonne in Iowa

Hi Listers, The 1881 census has possibly lead me to my g-grandfather Charles HARRIS abt. 1853 in Walford, Hereford, wife Fanny abt. 1855 in Ledbury, Hereford and son Henry (grandfather) b. 1875 in East Dean, Gloucester. Charles was a coal miner. The census lists dwelling as Hasel Hill, Wesbury on Severn, East Dean. I need help with two things: First and foremost I cannot locate a registration of birth for Henry b. 1875 (full name on marriage certificate Henry Jason Owen HARRIS) in order to get a birth certificate. I would also like to know if Hasel Hill was the location of a coal pit. I would sincerely appreciate any help. Regards Shirley Deasley Dwelling: Hasel Hill Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 83 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles HARRIS M 27 M Walford, Hereford, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Fanny HARRIS M 26 F Ledbury, Hereford, England Rel: Wife Henry HARRIS 6 M East Dean, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith F. HARRIS 4 F East Dean Rel: Daughter Emily E. HARRIS 2 F East Dean Rel: Daughter

Is there anyone on the list who could make an educated guess as to which regiment Arthur Isles might have joined. He was born 8.6.1885 at Cinderford and by 26.12.1914 he was back living at Yorkley. The only other information I have is family lore which says that at one stage he served in India - but I believe that many regiments may have done so. Assuming that he joined the army around 1901-2 is anyone aware of a regiment which had a recruitment campaign in the Forest about that time? Alternatively could anyone suggest where I might reasonably begin my search? I'd be very grateful for any suggestions. John in Sussex by the Sea. He doesn't seem to appear on any Officer lists

Gordon Morley wrote:- > "BETTY AND COLIN JONES have presented the Society with a large box > containing what appears to be the records of all the Jones families that > have ever lived in the Forest. We are very indebted to them both. It > may be a long job to present the data in a form accesible to all members > but in the meantime it is going to our librarian Bob JONES for > appraisal." > > I would be greatly interested to hear from anyone on the mailing list > who might have any clues as to the fate of this large box. Yes indeed, and the rest of the records too. Members were promised that details of the records disposal would be forwarded to them. We were also promised a refund of subscriptions, which had only just been paid when the Society folded. I'm still waiting. Maybe a complaint to the FFHS would be appropriate. =============================== David Steel <[email protected]> Adelaide, South Australia keeper of the Gloucestershire Surnames List at <http://www.tpg.com.au/users/dsteel/glsnames.htm> =================================================

Steve Read with interest your message with part of your wife's family. I am particularly interested in Will JONES who married Eva DORRINGTON. It is Eva who I am interested in mostly as my Great Grandfather was a DORRINGTON born in St Briavels. Do you have any other info on this lady at all so I can check my records to see if she may fit in my family somewhere. Many thanks. Janet Griffiths (Dudley UK) [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp