Would some kind soul be able to look up in 1851 or 1861 Census? For a BEVAN family one of the children is JOHN BEVAN born around 1844 in Cinderford. Any information regarding names of parents or other members of the family would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dennis Byett WesternAustralia [email protected]

Wonder if there is anyone with any other census information than the 1881 which is the information I have found...... .I am looking for James & Elizabeth HOPKINS who on the 1881 census are at The Cross, Little Dean, Gloucester. with their children Harriet (12) Benjamin (10) Ellen (8) Mary Jane (6) Clara (4) & Carmella (3). Mary Jane HOPKINS is my GtGrandmother.... I wonder if this property is still there......? what churches would be in this area.....then I can start and think about births, marriages and deaths.......There does not seem to be too much information about this particular area...... I wonder also if there is still any of the HOPKINS family left in the area...... Warmest Regards Jan and Julian PERKINS in Bronte Country Looking for

1959 1851 CENSUS HO107/1959 FF.0238-0261 ED.4D NEWNHAM 1 Piece: 1959 Folio: 0248 Schedule: 054 Address: Woodside BEVAN William HD M 38 Coal Miner GLS Thornbury (c1813) BEVAN Mary WI M 35 - GLS Wickwar (c1816) BEVAN Mary A. DA - 14 - GLS Houlston[?] (c1837) BEVAN Eliza DA - 12 - GLS East Dean (c1839) BEVAN Thomas SO - 9 - GLS East Dean (c1842) BEVAN John SO - 7 - GLS East Dean (c1844) BEVAN Susannah DA - 5 - GLS East Dean (c1846) BEVAN Emily DA - 3 - GLS East Dean (c1848) BEVAN - DA - 1W - GLS East Dean (c1850) 2444 1851 CENSUS HO107/2444 FF.0339-0350 ED.5K COLEFORD 1 Piece: 2444 Folio: 0345 Schedule: 026 Address: Lydbrook BEVAN Stephen HD M 43 Carpenter & Inn Keeper GLS Lydbrook (c1808) BEVAN Elizabeth WI M 40 - CMN Carmarthen (c1811) BEVAN William SO U 16 Carpenter's Son GLS Lydbrook (c1835) BEVAN Ann DA - 12 - GLS Lydbrook (c1839) BEVAN John SO - 8 - GLS Lydbrook (c1843) BEVAN Jane DA - 6 - GLS Lydbrook (c1845) BEVAN Stephen SO - 4 - GLS Lydbrook (c1847) BEVAN David SO - 10M - GLS Lydbrook (c1850) JORDON William LG W 54 General Labourer GLS Lydbrook (c1797) GRIFFITHS Thomas LG U 35 Forge Man Iron Works GLS Lydbrook (c1816) LANE Ann SV U 17 Servant GLS Lydbrook (c1834)

Pleaase...remove that person from this list.!!! Genealogy provides the opportunity to learn from history...what was done to others in the past should be considered in the light of the social mores, the economic conditions etc etc of the time. From this we can lean to value what we hold to be worthwhile, what we would like to pass on to the next generations. September 11 was an appalling day. Still we do not want to make the same mistakes that occurred in the past where superstition, intolerance, and fear clouded our relationships with neighbours. From even a limited experience in genealogy, it is impossible not to accept that judgements of past actions and events must be made with the type of insight that makes understanding possible in this world. Surely this has to be an important goal for genealogists. So why that dreadful comment? Ian [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:40 AM Subject: [FoD] ??? HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ??? > HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History... > > Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly > stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. > Pershing > was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist > attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a > lesson. > > Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, > execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered > them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were > terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. > This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as > terrorist martyrs. > > All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog > guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to > the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This > brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years. > > Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them > flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must > show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an > endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the > devil > > hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Great idea, I'm for it. > > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > There is a Brain surname mailing list [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hi Simon, Have you seen these web pages? You may find something of interest in them. ALL YEMMS !! http://www.yemm.org/listofyemms.htm Please keep me updated, as I have a few YEMMs but no John of the age you are looking for. I have a Horranhappuch Yemm b.1804 Ruardean m. Edmund BRADLEY b. 1802 Ruardean Cheers...Hazel

FROM AN IMAGINATIVE 'STORY' BY EVAN BARR'S EMAIL ADDRESS HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History... Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson. Forced to dig their own graves...... Ok Bigmouth, Maybe you've got the 'guts'.... Maybe a different perspective is in order for the ignorant & possibly racist among us ...? Regardless how people practise & preach their religion, it's THEIR religion & therefore THEIR belief system, faith, 'what makes them feel good'. Perhaps crossing those religious boundaries instills a sense of justice in YOUR belief system but in the real world, that's what we normal people call SICK... "Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs." "All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years." .....Yeah right mate.....Goes to show - you're an oxymoron - US Intelligence. And so it goes to follow that nobody really listens to ranting lunatics like yourself anyway - you've noticed this in your life haven't you - but what I'm confused about is your need to waste that precious time you could have spent educating yourself... Wasn't a waste of time was it? Steve

Joan, Hello, This is what you need Herefordshire Record Office. The Old Barracks, Harold Street, Hereford. HR1 2QX. Tel: 01432 260750 E-Mail: [email protected] Also their web site www.herefordshire.gov.uk/records_office/pol_records_intro.htm Regards, John

Take it from me who was born and brought up there and has a good map Coleford Newland,,,,etc ARE in the WEST of the dean the western boudary being the wye river... East Dean being that area from the Lydbrook,Cannop and Parkend Lydney Valley to the River Leaddon (roughly the old Glos to Ledbury railway) Perhaps not as far as the Leaddon but certainly beyond the foothills nr Newent . The "Miners Laws and Priviledges" states the eastern boundary as from "Gloucester Bridge (through) the half deale of Newent and Ross Ash" (reign of Edward III) ("deale" here means share or part so "half of Newent district") That means Dymock , Linton etc may be a bit doubtfull as being in the Forest.... but I digress East Dean realy centres on Cinderford, West on Coleford. Why isn't Cinderford used like Coleford as an identity in these early documents - basically because it is a newcomer, it didn't realy exist beyond a hotchpotch of cottages prior to about 1850 The East & West Dean area took in that part of the Forest not included in the peripheral parishes, it was a Royal Forest and as such not part of a Parish. As minerals were more commercially exploited so settlements were built. It took until the end of the 19th century before local government was reformed on the lines of what there is today. Prior to that those born in the "Wild Forest" were baptised in the chapels of Ease, or brought to the peripheral parishes, Newland ,Staunton, Bicknor, Ruardean, Newent, Westbury, Newnham, Lydney, Awre, Tiddenham, St Briavels.. I think. These represent the old churches, you will find all the churches inside that area are relatively modern (19th Century). The chapels of Ease were "sponsored" by the nearest peripheral parish, for instance Coleford had only a Chapel of Ease sponsored by Newland until the early 19th century. The importance of being baptised was not only for purposed of preventing damnation in the afterlife but providing protection in the current one. It was a parishes' responsibility to look after those registered within its boundary, and the application of the Poor Law, the management of entry to workhouses etc was all based on your registration within a parish. There were two ways to get registered, be born in the parish and have your baptism registered, or similarly have your marriage registered. I think thats pretty much right - its my understanding anyway Regards Bill Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Papworth <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > Roger, > > West Dean seems to be a term used to describe the east side of the Forest. > I'm not sure what the exact geographical limits are, but from what I've > seen, Coleford, Newland and St Briavels all fall into this area. > > Regards....Steve > > >From: "Roger Green" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [FoD] Greens in Coleford > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:44:52 +0100 > > > >James Green aged 38 was accidently killed while working in a coal pit > >15/3/1849 at High Beeches. > > >From the 1851 census (Bush Pit Coleford) he left a: > >wife Sarah 32 > >dau Ema 11 > >son Thomas 9 (this is my line) > >son william 8 > >son james 4 > >son john 4 > >dau ann 2 > >Sarah and children were all born at West Dean. From the 1841 ( The Persh ) > >census James was born out of the county and there was also a dau Ellen bn > >about 1837. > > > >Is there anyone researching this line ? > > > >Where is West Dean in relation to Coleford ? > >Any help appreciated > >Thanks in anticipation > > > >Roger in Stalham Norfolk > > > > > >==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > >There's a new mailing list for the Lost Conections web site > >[email protected] , dont forget > >http://www.lostconnections.co.uk for all your UK needs. > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ==== ENG-GLOS-FOREST-DEAN Mailing List ==== > There is a Brain surname mailing list [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hello Everyone Does anybody please know the e-mail address of the Herefordshire Record Office? I am going to try a long-shot to find my elusive relative but need to contact the Record Office. Many thanks in advance Joan Waddon

Hi folks I have just received marriage cert from FoD Reg Office (very prompt and efficient) for Richard PREDDY(Pridey) and Hannah GARDNER in 1840 in Newnham. Good for you I hear you say! BUT Hannah's father is given as John YEMM (!) A quick peek at the IGI showed hundreds of John YEMM's in FoD,bit of a local name it seems! Hannah was a spinster aged 17 when she married,so Gardner is not a previous marriage. Has anyone got any ideas as to how I should investigate this one? I look forward to your suggestions. Simon

Bill, Knight descendants from Timothy and Abigail are as follows: Cornelius (1794), Tilly (1797), Abigail (1800), Timothy (1802), Richard (1810) and Benjamin (1792). --Descendants of Cornelius and Esther Knight are: Benjamin (1825), Cornelius (1861), Melenda (1863) and Ellen (1858. --Descendants of Benjamin and Amelia (nee Barnes) Knight: Thomas Ernest (1880), Benjamin (1887), Ellen Maria (Nellie) (1892), Lena May (1894), Richard, Stanley, Arthur (1884) and Bessie Rebecca (1890). I also have descendants of Thomas Ernest if you want them. Hope this helps. Regards, Ernie Knight researching KNIGHT, READ, POOLE, LOCKSTONE, COOKSEY, (Glos FOD) EADE (Cornwall) BARNES (Hereford)

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History... Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson. Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs. All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years. Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Great idea, I'm for it.

Jan, >Is Eastdean....classed as The Forest of Dean Yes. >The 1881 states he was a coal miner....would this be in the Welsh Coal >Mines? Probably not. The Forest of Dean has a long tradition of coal mining, and some small, one or two man mines still exist today. All the major mines have closed down now, and in the early part of this century, many coal miners in The Forest moved north to find work in the coalfields of Derbyshire and Lancashire. There is at least one mine that is now open as a tourist attraction, taking visitors below ground to see what the mines were like. (As an aside, The Forest also has a long tradition of iron mining. The Puzzle Woods, near Coleford were Roman iron workings, and I believe that the Clearwell Caves were also iron mines). Regards....Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Listers, Would SKS please do a census lookup for George SMITH, born 1871 in Yorkley West Dean,Mother Eliza Thomas, Father SMITH (deceased). Thanks in advance, Hilda in Australia.

HI Dinnie! Glos e-mail address is [email protected] Regards, John

Hello listers, Does anyone have the e-mail address for the Gloucestershire Office please? I am needing to find out about the Easter Rolls in 1795 for Mitcheldean and or Abbenhall. Thank you all kindly, Dinnie

Hi List Found my GtGrandmother on the 1881 census.....Mary Jane HOPKINS....... I wonder now....has anyone got any other census for this address or any information about James or Elizabeth HOPKINS.........or any information which would help me. Is Eastdean....classed as The Forest of Dean.........Are there any churches which I can find the records of.........on-line......?? The 1881 states he was a coal miner....would this be in the Welsh Coal Mines? I have checked the Genuki site for East Dean....but unfortunately there is not a great deal of information on it. Dwelling: The Cross Census Place: Little Dean, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 18 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James HOPKINS M 50 M Westdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Elizabeth HOPKINS M 38 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Wife Harriet HOPKINS U 12 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Benjamin HOPKINS U 10 M Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Ellen HOPKINS U 8 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary Jane HOPKINS U 6 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Clara HOPKINS U 4 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Carmella HOPKINS U 3 F Eastdean, Gloucester, England Hope someone can help with a little more information.....would also love to hear from any other HOPKINS....... Take Care Warmest Regards Jan

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Hi everyone, just reposting my interests! I'm still looking for: (1) any Dalleys/Dallys of the FOD. particularly pre census references, ie 1700-1850. Especially the families of Richard and Sarah Dally, circa 1750, of Newnham area. Has anyone come across any MI's for any Dall(e)ys or entries in the various Parish registers and Burial Indexes etc? (2) any Yearsley/Yersleys/Yerzzleys of Newland, especially references to the families of James and Ann Yersley of Redbrook, Newland (circa 1750)? Cheers, and happy hunting everyone. Gwyn DalleyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Jan, you certainly seemed to have hit the jackpot with your 1881 census details! I presume that you have asked the list for a lookup for their father James on the 1851 census of West Dean? You might be lucky again and push your research back another generation! Good hunting, Gwyn DalleyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com