Hi Brian, Marilyn et al Welcome to the list and thnak you for the info re Mary GULWELL who is 6th G Grandmother to my partner Dawn THOMPSON, Marily MOFFAT and lister Doug THOMPSON who loves this list so much he has subscribed to it twice with different email addresses since his return from his holiday. Would love to know your connection to Mary GULWELL. I am also in touch with descendants of Mary who are not list members and more than a dozen other Hawkesbury researchers who are not list members. Spoke to Marilyn again on the phone briefly this morning whcih reminds me to mention to her that Orange End is also on the latest OS map. Talk soon Geoffro