Thanks Bob Lawrence for info on Isaac and Ann CHAPPELL I thought I had the dates wrong for the marriage as I have:- WILLIAM HENRY 1856 SARAH ANN 1844 JAMES 1844 twins THOMAS christened earlier 1844 GEORGE , 1850 ALFRED 28 NOV 1852 ELIZABETH ???? MARY ???? WILLIAM HENRY CHAPPELL is my great grandfather It seems they took thier time getting married I wonder why? thanks again Robert Millard