Marilyn Thanks for the TAVENDER (etc) information. My 1881 census is on order. I have used borrowed sets many times - it is about time I got one of my own. While stumbling round my files, I found an Excel file of Gloucestershire TAVENDERS. I will contact the guy who sent it to me, to check if he is happy for me to distribute it more widely. He is descended from a John TAVENDER who left Alderley in the 1850s to work in the South Wales coalfields. Bob