At the Get-together I was talking to someone interested in the Carter family and she gave me the names of the family from Hillesley who are buried in Hawkesbury churchyard (Dora Ruth, Harold Victor and Michael V.J.) Since then I have made some enquiries and found a living relative of these CARTER's - his name is Keith Edward CARTER and he lives locally. I have his telephone number and if the lady concerned contacts me directly off-list I will let her have his telephone number. He is quite interested and would like her to ring him. I have also noticed whilst looking back at the Hillesley Baptist Church MI's that there are CARTER's buried there also. Arthur Llewellyn CARTER is the old man I was talking about at the Get-together. It isn't obvious from that list of memorial inscriptions that Ruby Ellen CHAPPELL is also a CARTER - I am 99.9% sure that Arthur Llewellyn CARTER was her father - he certainly lived with her. Ruby had children (2 I think) who are probably still around locally. Best wishes, Anne (not quite so anonymous)