Cousin Roderick COOPER has mailed to point me to the following entry for the `1881 census. Dwelling: High St Census Place: Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341606 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2511 Folio 40 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Ann Iles COOPER W 59 F H Upton, Gloucester, England Further contributing to the belief that Joyce who married Thomas LEWIS was Joyce ILES daughter of Moses. What do other listers think ? Geoffro