Hi Jane A bit of research tonight has I think shown that we are not related after all! I don't think your Emma Thompson is from the Hawkesbury family. The finding of Edward Tilling with grandparents William and Sarah Thompson started the alarm bells ringing for me. William and Sarah are from Tetbury. (written as Tidbury) A look at the Bristol census for 1851 finds this in Horfield. THOMPSON William 38 Ag Lab Tetbury Sarah 40 Laundress Sodbury Maria 12 Scholar Horfield Edwin 9 Scholar Horfield Emma 6 Scholar Horfield Here is William and sarah with their daughter Emma aged 6 - bdate 1844/5 This ties in closely with your marriage certificate - 20 in Nov 1863 Census ages are often a bit out. You can see William and Sarah are not consistent about their own ages. Your connection to Hawkesbury now seems to be through Annie. On the 1881 census she is working as a servant with the Chappels, age 15 birthplace Horfield, Bristol. It looks like William and Emma stayed around Horfield, Bristol for a while. It would be nice for you to find Alice's mother and father somewhere on the 1881 census. But I can't find either of them! (Ex) Cousin Doug