Robert, you are an angel! Thank you so much for all of the extra details you have been able to give me especially Caroline's death. It puts to rest, finally, my "Oxenhall/Newent" theory, and finally, I can stop looking outside of Hawkesbury for my HOPKINS. When we spoke earlier, I thought it was Mavis who has HOPKINS in Hawkes. Now I'm not sure. Will post a querie. Thank you, again, Robert Regards Karen ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.