Hi, Doug Thanks, yes, we do have Eli and Edwin and (we hope) the whole family, though with a few anomalies. Although the 1851 census gives Eli as age 5, the 1881 census gives his age as 37, making him the same age as Edwin (for whom we have no later information. It does look as if the 1846 date may be more reasonable, unless they were twins, which can't be ruled out. The census transcription we have (Beavington's) and your own on-line one give their mother as Sardina from Horsley but if the original is difficult to read then it's possible her name was Lucinda(h) nee STEPHENS, for whom there is a marriage record to a William EVANS at the right place/time. There is no Lucinda of similar age/place otherwise on the census. Anyone any information on this STEPHENS family, please, other than the 1851 census? ___________ Dave Stiles http://www.linkcheck.co.uk/genealogy/