Carole Very many thanks - I had some of this but you've given me the information I was missing. I already had Alfred TEAGLE (b Didmarton) from the microfilm of the original 1861 census, living in Downend, married, but no wife/child living with him. To date I hadn't been able to find his wife Sarah and daughter Sarah Ann, aged about 1, on the 1861 census. The Sarah TAGLE (28) and Ann TAGLE (1) you have below must be them, living with Robert MILSOM in 1861. Alfred and Sarah TEAGLE's younger daughter Alice is described as Robert MILSOM's niece in Sopworth in 1881, so it sounds at first as though perhaps Sarah (bc1833, Keynsham)wife of Alfred TEAGLE and Elizabeth (bc1837 Kainson - probably Keynsham) wife of Robert MILSOM might be sisters, except that from the information Kaye provided, Elizabeth's maiden name was MATTHEWS (d of Benjamin MATTHEWS), whereas Sarah was formerly HARDING. It doesn't quite make sense yet, but you've given me some more pices of the puzzle to work with. You've also found the elusive Charles Lewis TEAGLE on the 1901 census. Many thanks for this. He was Alfred and Sarah TEAGLE's younger son. I knew (from a descendant of his) that he ended up in Cymfelinfach, Mon, as a miner, but neither of us could find him on the 1901 census anywhere even with the normal spelling variants. The enumerator's misspelling "TREAGLE" was one we hadn't though to try. The entry you have below in Risca, Mon, makes sense as Charles TEAGLE was living with his older sister Alice, wife of Isaac MILSOM. I have the marriage entry for Alice TEAGLE and Isaac MILSOM, and he was definitely the son of William MILSOM. The Wootton Bassett/Purton TEAGLEs are a different branch of the family, though we all have a common ancester in Dositheus TACKLE/TEAGLE of Tockenham, Wilts (Dositheus is an obscure biblical name - his father Nicholas was Lecturer/Curate of Tockenham mid 1640s). Richard -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 31 July 2005 07:41 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] TEAGLE & MILSOM Especially for Richard TEAGLE, as researched by Cousin Kay! The 1881 Census Sopworth Wiltshire has: Robert MILSOM Head 51 Sopworth Witltshire Farmer 11 acres employ 1 man (c 1830) Elizabeth MILSOM Wife 44 Kainson Glouc% Shopkeeper & Innkeeper (c 1837) Isaac MILSOM Nephew 22S Luckington Wiltshire Ag Lab (c 1859) Alice TEAGLE Niece 13 Fishponds Glouc Domestic Servant (c 1868) % The handwriting on the Census Page is very clear and the spelling is as shown. I cannot find such a place. I cannot find in any census any Isaac MILSOM other than Isaac the son of William MILSOM and his first wife Ann. I turned to the 1861 Census and found Robert and his wife Elizabeth at Sopworth: Robert MILSOM Head 30 Wiltshire Farm labourer (c 1831) Elizabeth MILSOM Wife 24 Gloucestershire (c 1831) Ann TAGLE (TEAGLE?) Visitor 1 Gloucestershire (c 1860) Sarah TAGLE (TEAGLE?)Visitor 28M Gloucestershire (c 1833) I found a marriage for a Robert MILSOM Mar Q 1858 Malmsbury 5a 56 but cannot trace his spouse. I found a birth for a Sarah Ann Kate TEAGLE born Jun Q 1860 Crickdale 5a 31 I believe that the visitors to Robert & Elizabeth MILSOM were mother and child. The question is: was Sarah MILSOM the wife of a brother of Robert or was Sarah TEAGLE the wife of a brother of Elizabeth -i.e was Elizabeth MILSOM a TEAGLE? In looking for Alice TEAGLE born c 1868 in the 1871 Census the only Alice was Alice TEAGLE born 1868 Purton Wiltshire which is far from Bristol (Fishponds). Her parents were Joseph TEAGLE born 1818 Wotton Bassett, Wiltshire and Martha TEAGLE born 1824 Wotton Bassett Wiltshire BUT. In searching for Alfred TEAGLE (the reputed father of Alice TEAGLE) the only Alfred with a daughter Alice was Alfred TEAGLE of Seagry Wiltshire. However this Alice was born in 1857 and thus is not Alice the Niece of Robert MILSOM. However In the 1861 Census there is an Alfred TEAGLE at Mangotsfield: Alfred TEAGLE Head 27M Didmarton Ag Lab (c 1834) (No wife/children with him. Possible that Sarah TEAGLE visitor at home of Robert MILSOM could be his wife.) Moving to the 1871 Census I could not find an Alfred TEAGLE but there was an Alfred SEAFELL that on looking at the original record is TEAGELL. Alfred was aged 37, born Didmarton, an Ag Lab. (This surely must be an Enumerator error in recording TEAGLE). The rest of the family were: Sarah his wife, aged 38 born Keynsham and daughters Elizabeth aged 8, Emily aged 6 and Alice aged 3 all born Downend Glouc. You will see that Alice is born 1868. Moving yet again to the 1881 Census Alfred TEAGLE aged 47 born Didmarton Railway Platelayer was living at 42 Long Street, Stapleton with his wife Sarah, aged 48 born Keynsham Wiltshire and children Elizabeth aged 18 born Mangotsfield, Alfred aged 8 born Mangotsfield and Charles aged 5 born Stapleton. Back to Alice TEAGLE. There are only two Alice TEAGLE born 1868 (1) Alice born Purton Wiltshire and (2) Alice born Downend Gloucestershire. The only Alice TEAGLE birth between 1867 and 1869 I could find was Alice Matilda TEAGLE born Mar Q 1868 Keynsham 5c 730 Taking yet another turning, Isaac Septimus MILSOM and Alice Amelia TEAGLE were married Sep Q 1887 Barton Regis 6a 233. In the Wales 1891 Census at Temperance Hill, Risca: Isaac S MILSOME Head 32 Luckington Wilt Ostler Coal Miner (c 1859) Alice MILSOLME Wife 23 Fishponds Glouc (c 1868) Sidney MILSOME Son 1 Sopworth Wilt (c 1890) Alfred MILSOME Son 1mth Risca Mon (c 1891) In Wales 1901 at Salisbury Street Risca Isaac MILSOM Head 44 Luckington Wilt Ostler (below ground) (c 1859) Alice MILSOM Wife 33 Fishponds Glouc (c 1868) Sidney MILSOM Son 11 Sopworth Wilt (c 1890) Alfred MILSOM Son 10 Risca Mon (c 1891) Emily MILSOM Dau 8 Risca Mon (c 1893) Lucy MILSOM Dau 6 Risca Mon (c 1895) Charles TREAGLE@ Visitor 25 Fishponds Glouc Labourer (under ground) (c 1876) Harriett TREAGLE Visitor 26 Radstock Somerset (c 1875) Alfred TREAGLE Visitor 5 Eastville Glouc (c 1896) Ernest TREAGLE Visitor 1 Fishponds Glouc (c 1900) @ Enumerator error, TEAGLE. Charles Henry TEAGLE married Harriet Mary TUCKER Mar Q 1896 Barton Regis 6a 233. Charles Henry TEAGLE was the son of Alfred and Sarah TEAGLE and a younger brother of Alice Matilda TEAGLE who married Isaac Septimus MILSOM. If you have been following this convoluted trail you will realize that I still have not found if Isaac S MILSOM and Alice Matilda TEAGLE were cousins, the missing link is the maiden name of the wife of Robert MILSOM who I have the gut feeling must have been a TEAGLE. Kay has now obtained the following certificates in an attempt to sort out these relationships:- No 37 Robert MILSOM aged 29 Bachelor Labourer of Sopworth, Father George MILSOM Labourer married Elizabeth MATTHEWS aged 24 Spinster of Sopworth, Father Benjamin MATTHEWS Labourer on 22nd March 1858 at the Parish Church St Mary Sopworth Wiltshire. Witnesses: John HANDS Jane HANDS No 311. Alice Matilda TEAGLE born 22nd Dec 1867 Downend Mangotsfield. Father Alfred TEAGLE Ag Lab. Mother Sarah TEAGLE formerly HARDING No 158. Sarah Ann Kate TEAGLR born 19th May 1860 Purton Wiltshire. Father Joseph TEAGLE, Innkeeper. Mother Martha TEAGLE formerly OGBURN Cheers Carole PS Richard, when you've sorted out this lot, perhaps you could let me know how they all fit together! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 28/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is 27th August, before the Hawkesbury Show. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx