Thanks Carole Bob had come to the same conclusion minutes ahead of you! Would the cert be any use to you as the primary custodian of all things WATTS? - This weeks free offer! Liz On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 09:35 PM, anthony sharp wrote: > Hi Liz. > Oh dear- what a shame! > > If its any consolation I know who this Walter is. and yes, he was "yet > another blacksmithing Hawkesbury WATTS" . See below for 1881 census. > entry. > Also part of his tree so that you can see where he fits in. We've been > discussing this family recently on the Hawkesbury list. Thomas WATTS's > sister was the Sarah Ann who appears to have had at least 4 > illegitimate > children, possibly two by Dr COX! > > I thought we thought that your Walter was the one at Horfield > barracks? I > wonder what happened to him? > > I'll have another nose around for him > > Cheers > Carole > > Dwelling: France Lane > Census Place: Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > Source: FHL Film 1341606 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2511 Folio 47 > Page > 23 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Thomas WATTS M 49 M Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Farm Labourer > Emma WATTS M 43 F Coats, Gloucester, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Laundress > Walter WATTS U 15 M H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Black(Smith) ((Striker)) > Ellen WATTS 10 F H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Cornelious WATTS U 5 M H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > Descendants of Hugh Watts > > > > 1 Hugh Watts b: Bef. February 22, 1807 in Hawkesbury Upton d: November > 1881 > Burial: November 19, 1881 Hawkesbury Census: 1851 Hawkesbury, ag lab > born > Hawkesbury age 43 > > . +Margaret Hyde b: 1806 in Rodborough m: November 27, 1831 in > Hawkesbury St > Marys d: Abt. March 1879 Burial: March 4, 1879 Hawkesbury Census: 1851 > Hawkesbury age 45 born Rodborough > > ... 2 Thomas Watts b: Bef. April 8, 1832 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > Census: > 1861 29Ag lab born Hawkesbury Upton @ Long St, Hawkesbury with parents > > ....... +Emma Scrivener b: 1837 in Coates, GLS m: December 25, 1861 > Census: > 1881 43 M Launderess born Coats, GLS @ France Lane Hawkesbury with > husband & > family > > ......... 3 Walter Watts b: Abt. 1866 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS Census: > 1881 > 15 Black(smith) Striker with parents @ France lane, Hawkesbury > > ......... 3 Ellen E Watts b: Abt. 1871 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > Census: 1881 > Ellen 10 scholar with parents @ France Lane > > ......... 3 William Cornelius Watts b: Abt. 1876 in Hawkesbury Upton, > GLS > Census: 1891 Grocery Assistant > > ... 2 Sarah Ann Watts b: Bef. June 29, 1834 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > Census: > 1851 Not with parents > > ....... +Not Known > > ......... 3 Naomi Ann Watts b: Bef. May 31, 1857 in Hawkesbury Upton, > GLS > Census: 1861 Age 5 Scholar @ Long St, Hawkesbury ? with mother & gd > parents > > ......... 3 Ann Elizabeth Watts b: Bef. May 27, 1860 in Hawkesbury > Upton, > GLS Census: 1861 age 2 born Hawkesbury Upton @ Long St, Hawkesbury,age > 2 > with mother & gd parents > > ......... 3 Llewellyn Jeffry Watts b: Abt. December 1869 in Chipping > Sodbury > district, GLS > > ......... 3 Mary Ann Watts b: Abt. 1874 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > > ... *2nd Husband of Sarah Ann Watts: > > ....... +William Isidore Cox b: Abt. 1824 in Marlborough, WIL m: > February 9, > 1880 in St Philip & St Jacob, Bristol, GLS > > ... 2 Joseph Watts b: Bef. December 25, 1836 in Hawkesbury Census: > 1851 age > 14 > > ... 2 Elizabeth Watts b: Abt. 1839 d: Bef. November 19, 1849 Burial: > November 19, 1849 Hawkesbury St Mary Census: 1841 Hawkesbury Upton age > 2 > with parents > > ... 2 Eli Watts b: Bef. September 12, 1841 Burial: September 28, 1843 > Hawkesbury, St Mary > > ... 2 Eli Watts b: Abt. 1844 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS Census: 1851 age > 7 > born Hawkesbury upton with parents > > ... 2 Jane Watts b: Bef. June 28, 1846 d: Bef. September 12, 1846 > Burial: > September 12, 1846 Hawkesbury St Mary > > ... 2 Daniel Watts b: Bef. February 6, 1848 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > Census: > 1851 age 3 scholar > > ... 2 Elizabeth Jane Watts b: Abt. 1850 in Hawkesbury Upton, GLS > Census: > 1851 Eliza Jane age 1 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David & Liz Fisher" <[email protected]> > To: "Carole Sharp" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:23 PM > Subject: Walter John WATTS > > >> Hi Carole >> >> Win some - lose some! >> >> I am now the disillusioned owner of a marriage cert for Walter John >> WATTS, who turns out not to be 'mine' after all, but probably still >> hails originally from Upton. The cert reads:- >> >> Marriage solemnised at The Congregational Chapel, Westgate, >> Peterborough in the County of Northampton,Twenty seventh April 1893, >> Walter John WATTS, age 27, bachelor, Blacksmith, residence at time of >> marriage Wickwar, Gloucestershire, father Thomas WATTS, Labourer, and >> Charlotte WRIGHT, age 26, Spinster, no profession, residence Eastgate, >> Peterborough, Father Robert WRIGHT, Builder, Witnesses Clara WRIGHT >> and >> R. WRIGHT. >> >> The ages of Walter and Charlotte tie in neatly with the 1901 census >> entry which first lead me to them.ie: >> >> RG13, Piece1460, Folio19, Page 2, Schedule 5 >> North Street, Stanground (which is just outside Peterborough ), >> Huntingdonshire >> Walter WATTS, head, M, age 35, Shoeing & General Smith, Employer, born >> Glos Hawresbury Ufetow ( My mac refuses to handle census images so I >> haven't been able to check that this is actually Hawkesbury Upton, but >> it seems very likely to me ) >> Charlotte WATTS, wife, M, age 34, born Northamptonshire Peterborough >> Percy N WATTS, Son, age 5, born Hunts Stanground >> John ROSE, servant, S, age 14, Apprentice to Shoeing Smith, worker, >> born Cambs Chatteris >> >> So who is this Walter WATTS ? I had become very attached to my theory >> that he was yet another blacksmithing Hawkesbury WATTS. I remember you >> saying that you had accounted for all the local Walter WATTS - but >> perhaps we can do a swap! My Walter ( born 1861 in Kilcott ) is still >> missing and I make you a gift of the spare one! >> >> Regards >> >> Liz >> >> >> > >