Liz Here is Peterborough Walter WATTS in 1881 Dwelling: France Lane Census Place: Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341606 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2511 Folio 47 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas WATTS M 49 M Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Labourer Emma WATTS M 43 F Coats, Gloucester, England Rel: Wife Occ: Laundress Walter WATTS U 15 M H Upton, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Black(Smith) ((Striker)) Ellen WATTS 10 F H Upton, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Cornelious WATTS U 5 M H Upton, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar A striking blacksmith? Thomas WATTS married Emma SCRIVINES at Hawkesbury on 25th December 1861. This could be the Thomas who was the son of Hugh and Margaret nee HYDE, and who was living with them age 29 in 1861. Any other theories? This makes Thomas the brother of Sarah Ann WATTS who has all those babies and then married Doctor COX. (See recent postings) Bob Lawrence ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** -----Original Message----- From: David & Liz Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 February 2004 20:24 To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] Walter John WATTS Hi Carole Win some - lose some! I am now the disillusioned owner of a marriage cert for Walter John WATTS, who turns out not to be 'mine' after all, but probably still hails originally from Upton. The cert reads:- Marriage solemnised at The Congregational Chapel, Westgate, Peterborough in the County of Northampton,Twenty seventh April 1893, Walter John WATTS, age 27, bachelor, Blacksmith, residence at time of marriage Wickwar, Gloucestershire, father Thomas WATTS, Labourer, and Charlotte WRIGHT, age 26, Spinster, no profession, residence Eastgate, Peterborough, Father Robert WRIGHT, Builder, Witnesses Clara WRIGHT and R. WRIGHT. The ages of Walter and Charlotte tie in neatly with the 1901 census entry which first lead me to them.ie: RG13, Piece1460, Folio19, Page 2, Schedule 5 North Street, Stanground (which is just outside Peterborough ), Huntingdonshire Walter WATTS, head, M, age 35, Shoeing & General Smith, Employer, born Glos Hawresbury Ufetow ( My mac refuses to handle census images so I haven't been able to check that this is actually Hawkesbury Upton, but it seems very likely to me ) Charlotte WATTS, wife, M, age 34, born Northamptonshire Peterborough Percy N WATTS, Son, age 5, born Hunts Stanground John ROSE, servant, S, age 14, Apprentice to Shoeing Smith, worker, born Cambs Chatteris So who is this Walter WATTS ? I had become very attached to my theory that he was yet another blacksmithing Hawkesbury WATTS. I remember you saying that you had accounted for all the local Walter WATTS - but perhaps we can do a swap! My Walter ( born 1861 in Kilcott ) is still missing and I make you a gift of the spare one! Regards Liz ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thank you Bob That certainly fits neatly. Most of my early WATTS data has come from the list's accumulated wisdom, and Carole's in particular, so I bow to any existing theories about Thomas's origins. Most of the area seems to be knee deep in WATTS and I find it hard to hold the relationships in my head. I've been listening in to the recent conversations with amusement. On balance I think a striking blacksmith would be more use than a missing one! Liz On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 09:02 PM, R.P. & A.L.Lawrence wrote: > Liz > > Here is Peterborough Walter WATTS in 1881 > > Dwelling: France Lane > Census Place: Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > Source: FHL Film 1341606 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2511 Folio 47 > Page > 23 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Thomas WATTS M 49 M Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Farm Labourer > Emma WATTS M 43 F Coats, Gloucester, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Laundress > Walter WATTS U 15 M H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Black(Smith) ((Striker)) > Ellen WATTS 10 F H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Cornelious WATTS U 5 M H Upton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > A striking blacksmith? > > Thomas WATTS married Emma SCRIVINES at Hawkesbury on 25th December > 1861. > This could be the Thomas who was the son of Hugh and Margaret nee > HYDE, and > who was living with them age 29 in 1861. > > Any other theories? > > This makes Thomas the brother of Sarah Ann WATTS who has all those > babies > and then married Doctor COX. (See recent postings) > > Bob Lawrence > > ************************************** > R.P.& A.L.Lawrence > The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, > Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. > Phone: 0117 9504314 > ************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: David & Liz Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 24 February 2004 20:24 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HWK] Walter John WATTS > > > Hi Carole > > Win some - lose some! > > I am now the disillusioned owner of a marriage cert for Walter John > WATTS, who turns out not to be 'mine' after all, but probably still > hails originally from Upton. The cert reads:- > > Marriage solemnised at The Congregational Chapel, Westgate, > Peterborough in the County of Northampton,Twenty seventh April 1893, > Walter John WATTS, age 27, bachelor, Blacksmith, residence at time of > marriage Wickwar, Gloucestershire, father Thomas WATTS, Labourer, and > Charlotte WRIGHT, age 26, Spinster, no profession, residence Eastgate, > Peterborough, Father Robert WRIGHT, Builder, Witnesses Clara WRIGHT and > R. WRIGHT. > > The ages of Walter and Charlotte tie in neatly with the 1901 census > entry which first lead me to them.ie: > > RG13, Piece1460, Folio19, Page 2, Schedule 5 > North Street, Stanground (which is just outside Peterborough ), > Huntingdonshire > Walter WATTS, head, M, age 35, Shoeing & General Smith, Employer, born > Glos Hawresbury Ufetow ( My mac refuses to handle census images so I > haven't been able to check that this is actually Hawkesbury Upton, but > it seems very likely to me ) > Charlotte WATTS, wife, M, age 34, born Northamptonshire Peterborough > Percy N WATTS, Son, age 5, born Hunts Stanground > John ROSE, servant, S, age 14, Apprentice to Shoeing Smith, worker, > born Cambs Chatteris > > So who is this Walter WATTS ? I had become very attached to my theory > that he was yet another blacksmithing Hawkesbury WATTS. I remember you > saying that you had accounted for all the local Walter WATTS - but > perhaps we can do a swap! My Walter ( born 1861 in Kilcott ) is still > missing and I make you a gift of the spare one! > > Regards > > Liz > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and > Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >