Hi ROBERT and DOUG, Made a mistake in putting names to photo; top left should be Stephen not Sidney. Joel son of Joseph had 5 children: EDGAR m NORA d BARBARA JOAN ARTHUR m DORIS s DONALD IVAN died aged 15 LIONEL b approx 1915 died approx 1996 m VERA s GRAHAM MARGARET b 1917 died 1999 d PAULINE S TERRY d RENEE _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband