Hi Sue Many thanks.. Margery IDOLLS sounds about right for the WATTS daughter. Any idea when John died? There is a Will for Thomas IDOLLES or IDOLLS, husbandman of Oldbury 19 Feb 1618 PROB 11/131. Do you have this one? Also Mary IDOLLS widow of Oldbury on the Hill 16 Aug 1672. (forgot to note the PROB ref. - sorry). I'll send you the transcript of the WATTS will separately Cheers Carole