Hi Sylvia It looks as if your John WINBOW was the carpenters appentice son of William WINBOW and Mary surname NEAL (I think ) but was born in Beaminster Dorset in 1797 from the 1871 census but born Yate in the 1851 census, she died at Hillesley in 1883 buried at Hawkesbury, your John must be their son as the other John was unmarried and a farm labourer. William Winbow above was the son of William WINBOW who lived at Hawkesbury Upton I think he was born in 1761 and died 1826 and was at first in 1798 leasing the left side of what is now the Beaufort Inn and later purchased it, he had at least 3 sons Thomas b,1790, John b,1794 the later village clerk who died 1864 aged 70 and your William b,1796/7 died Hawkesbury 1854. William snr was a tailor by trade as was most of his immediate family, William jnr was a Mason but his wife came from a family of publicans hence they started the Beaufort Inn where we hold our meetings and is pictured on my web pages. William Jnr's son John married Sarah TAVENDER 11 Sep 1834 and had at least six children John b,1836. Elizabeth b,1838. Sally b,1840. Emily Jane b,1842. Henry b,1845.Ann b,1849. The WIMBOW name has been in Hawkesbury from at least 1376 these are SOME of the variations 1376 WYNEBAND 1422 WYMBALD 1550 WYNBOLL 1627 WYNBOLD 1634 WINBOLD 1644 WIMBOLLE 1754 WIMBLE 1777 WEMBOLE 1791 WINBOW regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------