Ok Janet and Geoffro - Ddon't get too excited or upset if this contradicts anything , but I have a copy of a hand written family tree from a branch of the Carter family. This is mostly done from word of mouth and research made by a descendant of that line and was given to my father. I have not had a chance to check any of it or even transcribe it, but the link is to a JAMES CARTER who was the brother of THOMAS CARTER who married a Martha - I do not have a surname but I suspect it might be your Martha Winbow? This tree lists the parents of Thomas and James as Thomas CARTER and Ann REED married 25/9/1797. The grandson of this James went by the fabulous name of JOHN THOMAS DEBRELL CARTER (!) and married Emily THOMPSON - and here I'm on solid ground as I know that their daughter Ethel was the source of a lot of the info - I met the lady in the late 1960's just before she died, when my dad was doing some ancestor hunting, and tracked the family down. If you want this info and the stuff that came with it I will try and get it into a GEDCOM file so you can see and judge for yourselves. There is one other link (I've just noticed - JAMES (b. 1805) seems to have married and Ann HOWELL. Marilyn, Milton Keynes ----- Original Message ----- From: <Janwils77@aol.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] Janet WILSON and her CARTER's > Hi Geoffro > > Thanks for your email re the CARTERS. Yes, some of those listed on your > surname list are indeed related to me. My line starts with ANN CARTER date of > birth and parents unknown. She appears to have had 14 children and each time, > according to the parish register it states reputed father THOMAS HUNT. My > research for some years lead me to conclude that I was a direct descendant of > their first born JAMES CARTER (1777) who married ELIZABETH THOMPSON > 6.2.1803. Certain pieces of information that have come to light in the last > year have made me change my theory. > > ANN CARTER and THOMAS HUNT had a daughter MARY CARTER bap. 10.8.1788 > therefore making her by 1807 approx. 19 years old. In Gloucester Record > Office I found some information relating to a MARY CARTER of the same age > from the village of Hawkesbury who had a male bastard child on 24.1.1807 by > THOMAS SIMS of Stroud who's occupation is recorded as Butcher. No baptism > recorded in the I.G.I. > > THOMAS CARTER married MARTHA WINBOW on the 14.12.1828 at Hawkesbury. They > went on to have 8 children some of which appear on your CARTER list. The > children are as follows: > > SARAH CARTER bap. 1.8.1830 married WORTHY HOPKINS 2.6.1852 at Clifton > Register Office Bristol. > > GEORGE CARTER bap. 14.10.1832 > > JOHN CARTER my 2 X G. Grandfather born 18.12.1834 - information from family > bible - bap. 22.2.1835 - married MARY ANN WOODHAM 14.3.1868 Marshfield. > > JANE CARTER bap. 5.3.1837 married HENRY STNCHCOMBE at Wickwar on 4.11.1865 > > ENOCH CARTER bap.29.9.1839 - burial 21.6.1857. > > HANNAH CARTER bap. 18.4.1844 > > GILES CARTER bap. 6.6.1847 - married DRUCILLA HOWELL 27.10.1866 - died > 18.12.1826 - information re date of death metal cross in Hawkesbury > Churchyard. > > ELIZA MARY CARTER bap. 6.6.1847 - burial 22.1.1852 > > MARTHA CARTER nee WINBOW died 22.2.1848 from 'disease of the spine'. In > 1855 THOMAS CARTER remarried and took as his new wife ELIZA PRICE who like > him had been widowed. THOMAS CARTER is recorded on the marriage certificate > (no. 202) as being 47 years of age and his father as THOMAS SIMS butcher. The > witnesses to this marriage were WORTHY and SARAH HOPKINS his daughter and son > in-law. I therefore conclude that this THOMAS CARTER was not the one born to > JAMES CARTER and ELIZABETH THOMPSON. > > What do you think? > > > Janet > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >