Marilyn, Sorry - that's all there is! Carole -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Moffat [mailto:marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk] Sent: 23 April 2005 12:53 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [HWK] PITT "Strays" I think he might be, it's the right age (born 1825) - thanks, I'll have to send for the certificate - although I'm confused this didn't appear before - just goes to show you should look at the originals, not rely on the transcripts ... I hadn't got around to the burials when I was at the GRO ... I don't supposed the registers are more than a plain record of the burial ... you would have said! M -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 23 April 2005 12:36 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] PITT "Strays" Marilyn FreeBMD has the following deaths: Sarah Ann PITT June Qtr 1855 Chipping S 6a 112 Robert BEARD March Qtr 1855 Thornbury 6a 164. (Neither of these burials took place at St Mary's Hawkesbury) Unfortunately there were no marriages on FreeBMD where both partners (ie John PITT & Catherine BEARD) were listed. Incidentally, while looking at the Burial Registers I found George HULBERT age 30, Hawkesbury buried Nov 18 1855. I don't suppose he is you missing George? Carole -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Moffat [mailto:marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk] Sent: 23 April 2005 09:06 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [HWK] PITT "Strays" So you too think the John of 1851 is probably resettled in 1861 in Cromhall with a widow! I believe John had one more son than those listed in 1851 - born about 1826, John junior shows up in the 1841 census. My conclusion - which after years of teasing at the problem is still only speculation, is this: I have from the 1851 census one more member of John Pitt senior's household- Edwin HULBERT age 2 grandson. Edwin's middle name is John and in later years - when I finally deciphered the place of birth, as mangled by enumerators across the county, Edwin was often listed as John too - and this finally proves the one bit of oral history I had about my granddad having "an uncle called John"!! The only thing I can conclude therefore is that Edwin's father is John Pitt - a man who later turns up in south Wales, along with many other ex-Hawkesbury/ Hillesley residents. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 April 2005 20:23 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] PITT "Strays" Marilyn, I've just answered my own question! 1957 1851 CENSUS HO107/1957 FF.0379 - 0390 ED.8A THORNBURY Piece: 1957 Folio: 0388 Schedule: 047 Address: Poorend BEARD Robert HD M 47 Ag Labourer WIL Hillmarton [Hilmarton] (c1804) BEARD Catherine WI M 46 - WIL Kelston [SOM] (c1805) BEARD Ann DA - 19 - GLS Cromhall (c1832) BEARD Robert SO - 14 - GLS Cromhall (c1837) BEARD Henry SO - 13 - GLS Cromhall (c1838) BEARD Thomas SO - 10 Scholar GLS Cromhall (c1841) BEARD Edward SO - 9 Scholar GLS Cromhall (c1842) And here, for the record, is John PITT. 1956 1851 CENSUS HO107/1956 FF. 0476 - 0492 ED. 11 HAWKESBURY Piece: 1956 Folio: 0486 Schedule: 063 Address: Hillsley PITT John HD M 52 Carpenter GLS Hawkesbury (c1799) PITT Sarah Ann WI M 50 - GLS Hawkesbury (c1801) PITT Clarissa DA U 30 - GLS Hawkesbury (c1821) PITT Drusilla DA U 19 - GLS Hawkesbury (c1832) Carole -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 April 2005 20:14 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] PITT "Strays" Marilyn Do you think that the unmarried "son in law" could be the son of Catherine by her first marriage? Carole -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Moffat [mailto:marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk] Sent: 22 April 2005 19:00 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] PITT "Strays" I have an interest in a John PITT so when I spotted this I had a "moment" before I realised he was probably not the JohnPITT carpenter living Hillesley in 1851 with wife Sara (unless he remarried?) Nevertheless here he is in 1861, in case anyone is interested . In Bibstone Cromhall John PITT Head mar, 63, Carpenter, Glos Hillesley Catherine, wife, 57, Wilts, Caltstone(?) Coln Thomas Beard Son in Law, UN 21, labourer Glos Brinsfield Marilyn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 21/04/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. 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