My colleague Dianne - an expert on the areas around North Bucks. - has come up with a question for me (it's usually the other way round!). She has a line of Gypsies in her family and she has been following them across England. Today she was sent this note: BTW: I was recently reviewing some Lock family stuff . It includes a reference to an Ann/Anis/Alice Draper who partnered a Lucas Lock and had three children: Clementine (baptised 1845 Hawkesbury, Gloucs), Jemima (Leckhampton, Gloucs, 1850) and Lucas born c1848, place unknown. The latter appears on FreeBMD being registered in Thornbury registration district. Di's question to me is: "Do you have access to more Hawkesbury baptisms to see if gypsies made a regular appearance at all?" I only have spreadsheet transcripts - can anyone else help Dianne -either Hawkesbury or elsewhere in GLS come to that - with references to Gypsies /Travellers in the Parish records? One of the things she has discovered is that some places become a regular stop over for the family, and finding these she can make great strides in identifying others. She is secretary (or something similar!) to the Gypsy family History Society, so any information people can send me would not go to waste! (If it isn't Hawkesbury you can send it off list to me) I'm sure Dianne will be able to lend me bits of resource to do Bucks/ Beds /Northants lookups if anyone on the list needs a reciprocal look up! Marilyn

Marilyn The baptism for Clementine reads: No 80. July 4th 1845.Clementine daughter of Lucas & Annis/ LOCK DRAPER/ Hawkesbury/ Gypsy. W E RANDOLPH Curate. There is a faint line connecting Lucas to LOCK which I assume means they weren't married. If I spot any more Gypsies I'll let you know. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Moffat [mailto:marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk] Sent: 12 April 2005 12:54 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] DRAPER / LOCK - Gypsy reference My colleague Dianne - an expert on the areas around North Bucks. - has come up with a question for me (it's usually the other way round!). She has a line of Gypsies in her family and she has been following them across England. Today she was sent this note: BTW: I was recently reviewing some Lock family stuff . It includes a reference to an Ann/Anis/Alice Draper who partnered a Lucas Lock and had three children: Clementine (baptised 1845 Hawkesbury, Gloucs), Jemima (Leckhampton, Gloucs, 1850) and Lucas born c1848, place unknown. The latter appears on FreeBMD being registered in Thornbury registration district. Di's question to me is: "Do you have access to more Hawkesbury baptisms to see if gypsies made a regular appearance at all?" I only have spreadsheet transcripts - can anyone else help Dianne -either Hawkesbury or elsewhere in GLS come to that - with references to Gypsies /Travellers in the Parish records? One of the things she has discovered is that some places become a regular stop over for the family, and finding these she can make great strides in identifying others. She is secretary (or something similar!) to the Gypsy family History Society, so any information people can send me would not go to waste! (If it isn't Hawkesbury you can send it off list to me) I'm sure Dianne will be able to lend me bits of resource to do Bucks/ Beds /Northants lookups if anyone on the list needs a reciprocal look up! Marilyn ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005

Hi Diane Lucas LOCK came to Hawkesbury abt 1822 from Chedworth where his father Merrick or Mirack LOCK married Mary LEE 16th Apr 1821, Merrick LOCK was probably from Stolton Worcestershire where a family of LOCKs lived from early 1700's Lucas was born there 24 Oct 1813 to Merrick and Mary although we can't be sure its not and earlier wife called Mary also. Merrick and Mary baptised a daughter Temperance at Hawkesbury 20 Mar 1818 , there also seems to be a probable brother Henry who married Elizabeth they had a child Charlotte b.27 OCT 1816 in Chedworth and later Zacharias 25 Mar 1827 in Hawkesbury and probably a few more not recorded, probably the reason they came to Hawkesbury was Merrick may have had another brother and sister in law, Mathew & Memberang LOCK who baptised Isaiah on the 22 Mar 1817. it may have been during a stay with them Temperence was born. At some point Lucas meets Anne DRAPER I think its probable they lived at Hawkesbury for some time, until after daughter Clementine was born then they seem to go on the road, Lucas LOCK jnr was born in May 1848 Nr Berkley he died 2 weeks later buried at Berkley Church 9 Jun 1848, another daughter Jemima was born Dec 1850 and died 8 months later at Swanley Nr Berkley buried Berkley 6th July 1851. Meanwhile Lucas LOCKs sister Temperance b.1818 Hawkesbury has married Arnold SMITH a Tinker and Brazier from Oxford and they are living in a caravan on the roadside in Golden Valley Deerhurst on census day 1851 they have a daughter Mary Ann aged 12 and cousins Obadiah DAVIS his wife Cinderella (no doubt does the ashes) with their sons Joseph, Obadiah, daughters Mary and Maria aged 2 weeks, this must be one crowded caravan no wonder the lodger Joseph MOUR aged 40 was sleeping in the farm house. Anne DRAPER must have died during the next decade in 1871 Lucas LOCK is living in a caravan with Arnold SMITH and his wife Temperance Lucas's sister parked in a field at Parks farm Slimbridge he describes himself as a tinkers assistant what ever that is, also in the caravan is Prudence SMITH Arnolds grand daughter b, 1853 at Hawkesbury. Its known that Gypsy families congregated at certain weeks at set places I know some did at Hawkesbury but I don't know where, I don't think it was a big thing in Hawkesbury some places hundreds of families gathered and still do today horse trotting being a popular thing to do and gamble on. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Moffat" <marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: [HWK] DRAPER / LOCK - Gypsy reference > My colleague Dianne - an expert on the areas around North Bucks. - has > come up with a question for me (it's usually the other way round!). > She has a line of Gypsies in her family and she has been following them > across England. Today she was sent this note: > BTW: I was recently reviewing some Lock family stuff . > > It includes a reference to an Ann/Anis/Alice Draper who partnered > a Lucas Lock and had three children: Clementine (baptised 1845 Hawkesbury, > Gloucs), Jemima (Leckhampton, Gloucs, 1850) and Lucas born c1848, place > unknown. The latter appears on FreeBMD being registered in Thornbury > registration district. > > Di's question to me is: > > "Do you have access to more Hawkesbury baptisms to see if gypsies made a > regular appearance at all?" > > I only have spreadsheet transcripts - can anyone else help Dianne -either > Hawkesbury or elsewhere in GLS come to that - with references to Gypsies > /Travellers in the Parish records? One of the things she has discovered is > that some places become a regular stop over for the family, and finding > these she can make great strides in identifying others. She is secretary > (or something similar!) to the Gypsy family History Society, so any > information people can send me would not go to waste! (If it isn't > Hawkesbury you can send it off list to me) > > I'm sure Dianne will be able to lend me bits of resource to do Bucks/ Beds > /Northants lookups if anyone on the list needs a reciprocal look up! > > Marilyn > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >