Hi Joan, At the last get together I mentioned that I had seen a MORGENSTERN in the parish registers but couldn’t remember which, where or who! Finally, I’ve found it! Parish Register - Oldbury on the Hill, No 365 May 27 1866, Emma dau of John & Emma MORGENSTERN, Bromley, MDX. Baker. Perhaps you could confirm that Emma (the mother) was Emma CHAPPELL, daughter of John CHAPPELL & Sarah CURNOCK, Cheers Carole -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005